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Four California High School Students Arrested for Alleged Mass Shooting Plot
People ^ | October 4, 2015 | Lindsay Kimble

Posted on 10/04/2015 7:48:10 PM PDT by FoxInSocks

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To: FlingWingFlyer

I hate to tell you but it’s not just public schools. Youth today are a mess because often they are left alone floundering in a world that is a rotten cultural dessert. Read their twitter pages and you will be horrified.

My child’s catholic school just had a suicide last week. Before you look at the schools, look at the homes of these kids. They are a mess.


41 posted on 10/04/2015 9:52:58 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

That was supposedly an accident.


42 posted on 10/04/2015 9:55:34 PM PDT by Misterioso (Altruism is a sin.)
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To: downtownconservative
Most ADHD medications are amphetamines such as Ritalin, not Prozac, Zoloft, et al. I'm sure Ritalin is over-prescribed, but it's been used safely by children and teens for seventy years. Prozac, etc. are more complicated. In any case, I tend to think even the psychotropic drugs merely failed to make the school shooters well, rather than that they caused the violent behavior. A combination of evil, mental illness, lack of parental involvement, and lack of religion seems to be behind the school shootings.
43 posted on 10/04/2015 10:05:59 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Cboldt

We all use the Burkean principle. It is a principle. The left just uses it to increase state control by undermining the natural family and the practice of morality and religion — the conscience developers. The right sees that those building blocks of society promote freedom.


44 posted on 10/04/2015 10:53:11 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: FoxInSocks

Have ANY of these high school murder plots been tied to the right? I don’t think so.


45 posted on 10/04/2015 11:38:11 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
-- The left just uses it to increase state control by undermining the natural family and the practice of morality and religion ... --

On this we agree completely. The left invites abandonment of moral absolutes, then advocates government coercion to fill the same purpose.

46 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:41 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: VideoDoctor

You mean the 60s. I was there.


47 posted on 10/05/2015 12:32:35 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Cboldt

I very much like how you said it.


48 posted on 10/05/2015 12:44:20 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: VideoDoctor

I suspect the problem is more closely related to the fact that many parents do not have God in their homes.


49 posted on 10/05/2015 3:56:03 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
it’s not just public schools. Youth today are a mess because often they are left alone floundering in a world that is a rotten cultural dessert. Read their twitter pages and you will be horrified.

I don't read twitter. I'm in my 20's and encounter horrifying stupidity and culturally rotted young Americans every day.

There's something worse though. The low-involved. The people who know better but do nothing but rock on their porches -- and their keyboards -- about how bad things are. Meanwhile they send their kids to public schools, and to colleges; to church, not so often. They protest only on the internet forums. They condemn abortion but they pay taxes, knowing what they know. They are experienced and wise, and they have no more conscience of guilt than a high-functioning sociopath.

50 posted on 10/05/2015 4:05:48 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Misterioso
That [Cain killing Abel] was supposedly an accident.

You are certainly free to suppose anything you wish, but I find no Biblical support at all for such a supposition. Rather, the Bible actually makes a plain, straight-forward case that it was premeditated murder. Please consider:

1. Cain had a strong motive for murder:

“In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. But Abel brought fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.” Genesis 4:3-5 (NIV) (and see 1 John 3:12, below)

2. God warned Cain against acting on his jealous anger:

“Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must master it." Gen. 4:6-7

3. Cain murdered Abel anyway:

“Now Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.Gen. 4:8

4. God punished Cain for murdering Abel:

“ The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth." Gen. 4:10-12

5. Finally, the Bible specifically calls it "murder":

"Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother's were righteous." 1 John 3:12

51 posted on 10/05/2015 7:28:37 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Left is running the schools and our youth culture...that explains the insanity and rage among the students. The left is filled with hate towards, whites, males, Christians, America, etc. and spew it out 24/7. They bully people they hate. They reward minority racists, female male haters, queers and other perverts, Muslims for their hate while claiming to be against haters... They call good, evil and evil, good. They are insane and demand everyone join them.


52 posted on 10/05/2015 8:04:50 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

How can evil (the State) control evil in society?

The State is responsible for spouting the Nations’ atheist (with the exception is Islam) tribalism (race classification, definition and division) and they devise and preach the jealous, hateful religious, race and sex doctrines that go with it. If the Pope has his way, they will add class warfare (class coveting and jealously) to the mix.

The American government is corrupt and socialist as Hitler was socialist or Marxist as Stalin was Marxist. Hitler and Marx wanted their ideology to rule the world like America’s government seeks global government in the same dark spirit. They will “progress” to mass murdering an American enemy group in time if we stay on this current course. If this is the end times, they will slaughter Christians and Jews.

In the meantime, they have banned (culturally cleansed) America’s ideology of freedom, God, love, honesty, family, morals, ethics, loyalty, honor, marriage and all the other attributes of America’s Judeo-Christian culture and character that made us good, thoughtful, wealthy, free, peaceful, independent and strong.


53 posted on 10/05/2015 8:53:43 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

When God is honored among the people, they choose representatives who honor Him as well. Then limited government is a blessing that keeps order for the good and for GGOD to all. When good is called bad and bad is called good then the people choose representatives who will promote evil and tyranny.

Government is not necessarily evil. But people are bent towards evil and people run governments. Therefore a balance of power between three branches and limited government and local/state control with fair elections and the respect for religion and morality and conscience. Too much power corrupts. To stay free the people need restraints on their own appetites from within — religion and morality — or so said the Framers of our Constitution.

Liberals believe that they are intrinsically good and therefore should be in control of everything and that conservatives are intrinsically bad and should turn over their property and their right of conscience to the control of liberals, or be punished.


54 posted on 10/05/2015 9:38:59 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

People who believe in the Biblical concept of Hell don’t do this kind of thing.


55 posted on 10/05/2015 9:41:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Bigg Red

Bingo


56 posted on 10/05/2015 10:39:59 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Good quote. Some segments of society have the mindset of victim that can do no wrong. Just because someone is a member of the less powerful race, class, socioeconomic level doesn’t give them the right to eschew morality.


57 posted on 10/05/2015 10:44:27 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Awesome quote. Burke was a genius.


58 posted on 10/05/2015 11:23:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Liberals believe that they are intrinsically good and therefore should be in control of everything and that conservatives are intrinsically bad and should turn over their property and their right of conscience to the control of liberals, or be punished.


That would be a lot of hurting liberals.


59 posted on 10/05/2015 5:21:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FoxInSocks

Time for four extra late term abortions.


60 posted on 10/06/2015 1:19:42 AM PDT by tdscpa
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