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Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work
The Telegraph ^ | 01 October 2015 10/04/2015 | Martin Daubney

Posted on 10/04/2015 6:44:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new book claims that male office workers are now so afraid of being on the receiving end of a sexual harassment case, they are reluctant to mentor, assist, befriend and even hold open doors for female colleagues.

Crushingly, the book, Sex & The Office suggests men now view such ordinary, decent behaviours as “too risky” – and, in what will be a bitter irony for equality campaigners – claims that, as a direct consequence, women are now failing to advance at work.

This terror of being accused of sexual harassment is now so common it has its own term, “backlash stress”. It sounds like something straight out of a Claims Direct ad – where the only victims are men.

The book’s author, Kim Elsesser, a research scholar at the University of California, argues that a “sex partition” has sprung up, which impedes women from building the vital network of contacts both within the workplace and socially.

And the author should know about tough working environments: she’s a former equities trader at Morgan Stanley.

Tellingly, Elsesser adds that companies themselves are contributing to this mess, as they are now so terrified of legal action they send staff on sexual harassment training courses, and are duty-bound to follow up on any allegation, however minor.

Ludicrously, Elsesser cites examples of men who have been dragged in by their HR departments for simply opening a door for a female colleague or complimenting her on a new suit. “Stories like these spread around workplaces, instilling a fear that innocent remarks will be misinterpreted,” she says.

No s**t, Sherlock!

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: employment; feminism; genderwars; men
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To: Twink

My daughter, if I wasn’t bestowed with all boys, would have been raised like her mother who would literally walk into a door if it wasn’t opened for her. My daughter however would not have been a lib. Did you miss my point on that?


121 posted on 10/05/2015 7:28:15 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Twink

So what? American women don’t need men.


122 posted on 10/05/2015 7:30:42 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: Twink

Lol, I have no idea what your talking about.


123 posted on 10/05/2015 8:09:27 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Twink
I have no idea if there are websites or news stories for each of these cases. You're free to search for them. Btw, there are much more bizarre cases than that.☺
124 posted on 10/05/2015 9:21:16 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Twink

She must be an ME working at a Civil firm. I have found that CEs are especially uncivil.


125 posted on 10/05/2015 9:42:19 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Fred Hayek
Nope, I was wrong, the manufacturer (one of the biggest process controls suppliers globally) was wrong, I had an attitude problem. I was ready to quit that day.

I managed to squeak this one past the mods and overly sensitive once... it's entirely appropriate to your comment... so here goes nothing:


126 posted on 10/05/2015 9:51:15 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Twink
Well, Friend, I was hoping to find Ron Swanson clip complaining about "work proximity acquaintances." But I don't see it so please enjoy these Best of Ron Swanson quotes.
127 posted on 10/05/2015 3:43:15 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Twink

My co-worker and I have a habit of wearing the same colored khakis and same colored shirt to work sometimes. We laugh about it and then go back to our offices and work.


128 posted on 10/05/2015 3:52:46 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: SeekAndFind
I suspect this is a backdoor way to implement Muslim style rules where men are not allowed to interact with women.

129 posted on 10/05/2015 4:06:45 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: norton
You've done a decent job of describing sexual harassment on your part.

Haha.

Once, when I worked at a convenience store, I stopped in on my day off and was chatting with the clerk a bit. A cockroach appeared behind the counter. The clerk freaked out, wanted me to come kill the cockroach. I wouldn't, because it was a cockroach and I won't go near those things. So a male customer walked into the store and we got him to do the dirty deed. (I'm sure we made his day, killing cockroaches was probably the last thing on his mind when he entered the store.)

Does it rattle you if someone says "Ma'am"?
That one got me on the HR S*** List even after some one pointed out my mother's southern background (which catapulted me from Sexist to Red Neck)

I'm in the military, I expect to be called "Ma'am." People also call me by rank, or sometimes they call me "doctor."

I have no idea why calling someone "Ma'am" (or "Sir") would be an EO issue. I guess whoever found that offensive was not familiar with military discipline or basic politeness?

130 posted on 10/05/2015 5:23:10 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: the_individual2014

Same reason some don’t want to hire minorities cause if they turn out to be a bad employee and need to be fired, they scream racism and sue so why bother to hire in the first place.


131 posted on 10/05/2015 7:14:06 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

They all act like “little girls” when they are actually treated by a man, like a man treats another man. Why can’t they just be women instead of Bi#$%@s? Megan Kelly a perfect example.


132 posted on 10/05/2015 7:17:25 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: dandiegirl

Couldn’t agree more. It’s nearly bi-polar the swings between trying to be more masculine than most men and then shrinking back like a waterlily after sunset. It’s bad for women and bad for men who are trying to deal fairly with women but don’t know how to any more.

It will be interesting to see what level support Camille Paglia gives Mrs. Bill “I sold missile-guidance technology to the ChiComs” Clinton if she is the candidate.

Hilary! represents everything about the strong woman that Paglia has despised for 20 years. If she turns around and supports her, it will be a sad bit of hypocrisy.


133 posted on 10/05/2015 9:09:20 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
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To: SamAdams76

PC, like it’s progressive source, is base hypocrisy. All to bash white men, the ‘power’ they must ‘struggle against’. It is also cognitively dissonant; it damages what helps — white men provide jobs and security.

In the end, imo, leftists/proggies are mental adolescents trying to kick their fathers for not being allowed to run wild.


134 posted on 10/06/2015 5:44:01 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: rabidralph

Which is fine. I just don’t get why complimenting people on the clothes they wear is even an issue. Or why it could cause problems and it does, or why people notice and actually say it lol. Again, I’m old.


135 posted on 10/06/2015 6:12:02 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Rodamala

No, manufacturing plant. But, I’ve heard engineering programs at colleges are trying to keep women and firms are too. It can be tough being the only female but as long as she does the work (as she did while in college and proved she wasn’t an AA hire - re got there because she was a woman) then she needs to just suck some of it up.

I’ve raised my girls in a different area/environment than where I grew up so they aren’t used to the more “earthy” part of life. But, they’re learning.


136 posted on 10/06/2015 6:18:32 PM PDT by Twink
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To: dragnet2

I bet. This is why, in today’s world, I think it’s best to just not compliment anyone at work on what they are wearing.

My former boss was obsessed with what his employees were wearing. It was weird. Why even comment, and make an issue of it rather than addressing any concerns with the people you actually have concerns about? And, why even comment on how great someone looks (as a boss). It’s just weird, imo.


137 posted on 10/06/2015 6:26:26 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Cen-Tejas

Ok. I have no idea what YOU’RE talking about either. :)


138 posted on 10/06/2015 6:27:42 PM PDT by Twink
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To: polymuser

It’s a sorry state that it’s become this.

Men and women are being taught from the time they are little children that they don’t need each other.


139 posted on 10/06/2015 6:30:22 PM PDT by Twink
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I guess I did miss your point on that. My mistake.

My daughters are taught not to walk into doors and to hold them open for everyone. They’re taught to give up their seat on the bus/train, etc. for anyone else (mother with kids, pregnant women, anyone older than them). They’re told to say Thank You when a door is held open for them.


140 posted on 10/06/2015 6:36:02 PM PDT by Twink
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