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Shooter's father blames guns – not son – for massacre
WND.com ^ | 10/04/2015 | World Net Daily

Posted on 10/04/2015 11:37:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

'Every time something like this happens, they talk about it and nothing is done' Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/10/shooters-father-blames-guns-not-son-for-massacre/#VIdc0bq86pAOKyW0.99

In a staggering twist of logic, the father of Umpqua Community College killer Christopher Harper-Mercer is blaming guns, rather than his son, for the bloody killing spree that ended with nine innocent people dead.

In an interview with CNN, Ian Mercer claims he doesn’t blame guns, then spends much of the interview refuting that assertion. Mercer does not indicate that he believes his son was solely responsible for the massacre.

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1 posted on 10/04/2015 11:37:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is the father claiming the son was involved in a conspiracy?


2 posted on 10/04/2015 11:38:10 AM PDT by research99
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The mods just pulled a posting asking why the media are not showing any pictures of the shooter’s mother. Is that because the photo was deemed fake? Any thoughts?


3 posted on 10/04/2015 11:39:32 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I hate it when guns drag an innocent to the site they plan a massacre in an effort to mask their ability to be mobile and fire themselves!


4 posted on 10/04/2015 11:40:57 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ian’s son, Chris Harper-Mercer, opened fire at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg killing nine, before he died in a gunfight with police

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257791/Look-Ian-Mercer-father-Oregon-college-shooter-sued-sexually-harassing-male-worker-LA-bagel-shop-creating-hostile-work-environment.html#ixzz3nct2VwOW
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257791/Look-Ian-Mercer-father-Oregon-college-shooter-sued-sexually-harassing-male-worker-LA-bagel-shop-creating-hostile-work-environment.html


5 posted on 10/04/2015 11:41:57 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I DO have a solution for all of this.


6 posted on 10/04/2015 11:42:26 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

It does seem odd that we haven’t even seen any verified pictures of the alleged mother.
The alleged dad of the alleged shooter has been on TV.
Not taking any resposibility for raising someone who would do this.


7 posted on 10/04/2015 11:42:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Where is the mother? Did she go to the shooting range repeatedly with this ant-White anti-Chritian racists who asked his victims what religion they were and killed only white Christians . Where is the mother?


8 posted on 10/04/2015 11:42:44 AM PDT by WENDLE (Let Russia Fight ISIS !! Who cares??)
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To: research99

THE FATHER NEEDS TO LOOK HIMSELF IN THE MIRROR AND ASK HIMSELF HOW HE FAILED HIS SON. Jerk. If he had a dad around that teach him self esteem, he needs to feel SOME of the blame. Geesh.


9 posted on 10/04/2015 11:42:54 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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EXCLUSIVE: ‘Look at the a** on her.’ Ian Mercer, father of Oregon college shooter, was sued for sexually harassing a male co-worker at his LA bagel shop and creating a ‘hostile’ work environment

Ian Mercer, 55, was sued for making sexual comments about customers and staff while manager of Noah’s Bagels in Thousand Oaks
Brett McDonald filed the lawsuit in 2008 charging the mass killer’s father harassed, inappropriately touched and embarrassed him
McDonald says Mercer massaged his shoulders, placed his hands on his chest, shoulders and waist’, court documents claim
‘Look at the a** on her’: Mercer was also accused of making inappropriate comments about a customer’s ‘hot’ daughter
McDonald says when he filed complaints with senior management he was unjustly fired
In May 2009, Judge Ernest Hiroshige dismissed the case against Mercer
Ian’s son, Chris Harper-Mercer, opened fire at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg killing nine, before he died in a gunfight with police

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3257791/Look-Ian-Mercer-father-Oregon-college-shooter-sued-sexually-harassing-male-worker-LA-bagel-shop-creating-hostile-work-environment.html#ixzz3nctIDh8r
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10 posted on 10/04/2015 11:43:05 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Daddies usually have a lot more influence over their sons than do any inanimate objects

just saying...


11 posted on 10/04/2015 11:45:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And of his parenting skills?

I don't think most (99.7%) of fathers who were even slightly involved with their son's lives would be shocked to learn that a son had taken up a shooting sport hobby.

12 posted on 10/04/2015 11:45:34 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Looks like there have been a lot of “modifications” to his online presence.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/


13 posted on 10/04/2015 11:46:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This kid lived with his mother. Why are the stories not with the mother? How is it she did not notice or say anything about his buying up so many guns?


14 posted on 10/04/2015 11:46:36 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Because the liberal father is doing what most liberals know to do when they are caught in a scandal, they know how to deflect attention. Instead of the media trashing him for being a POS father, instead he blames guns so the media can say “Yeah Yeah he’s right, let’s not blame the daddy”


15 posted on 10/04/2015 11:47:32 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Steve_Seattle

The media isn’t showing a picture of the mother because she is BLACK yep, this Obama looking son is half black, can’t bring that up so the media just refuses to show pictures of his mother


16 posted on 10/04/2015 11:48:22 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s a bad recording so turned it off.

Of course, blaming the son would equate to the father was at fault for not raising him properly.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 11:48:43 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
"In a staggering twist of logic, ..."

There’s an adage that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

18 posted on 10/04/2015 11:48:53 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
On the left is the selfie Christopher Mercer uploaded to his social media. On the right is how CNN presented the same selfie in broadcast stories about him. Why did CNN need to change the complexion (color) of their broadcast? Why is no-one showing pictures of mom, Laurel Margaret Harper. Why change to hyphenated name? Real name is Christopher Sean Mercer. Media using Christopher Harper-Mercer and Chris Harper-Mercer. nothing to see here Follow Up to THIS STORY Several months ago we shared the story of Eric Sheppard Jr. a radical “Black Lives Matter”, “F**k The Police” and Islamic radical who used a philosophy of black supremacy similar to the New Black Panthers. Sheppard gained brief notoriety when he held a U.S. Flag Stomping event at Valdosta State University. After his public exposure, and after the police filed a warrant for his arrest on firearms violations, and after he mailed a racist manifesto to a local Georgia Newspaper – while on the run, he was finally arrested in Tampa Florida by U.S. Marshals. Eric Sheppard’s story disappeared from the headlines and never resurfaced. sheppard 1Valdosta State Universitychris harper mercer Yesterday, while reviewing the social footprint of Oregon shooter Chris Harper-Mercer, (aka Chris Sean Mercer) an almost identical world-view to Eric Sheppard Jr. was evident in Mercer’s social media history. Chris Harper-Mercer, a mixed-race angry 26-year-old, was essentially the mirror image on social media as Eric Sheppard Jr. Mercer held sympathetic words and thoughts for the Virginia shooter Vester Flanagan, and similarly raged against white people, and expressed sympathy toward the Black Lives Matter movement. (Example Below): oregon shooter 6 However, today almost all of that social media history is GONE -> Example Here. It is either removed entirely, and/or edited for content. How it could be edited is a mystery unless there is some other issue at hand. In addition, as several researchers have noted, anyone who held attachment to Mercer appears to be deleting the content of their association. Including Umpqua Community College itself. As D-Man was pointing out Mercer was part of a production class going to present a play at Umpqua Community College named “BLITHE SPIRIT“. The play was scheduled to run later this month: From the cache Centerstage Theatre at UCC Please join me in congratulating the team for our Fall show! This is going to be an awesome comedy to start out the year. This British comedy comes with witty language and spooky effects. We are especially delighted to feature our local star who is now based out of NYC, Josh Carlton! BLITHE SPIRIT, by Noel Coward Presented by UCC Theatre Arts Oct 30-Nov 8 CHARLES: Josh Carlton RUTH: Rebecca Miles EDITH: Abby Dooley DR. BRADMAN: Devin Barnett MRS. BRADMAN: Alexandra Duvall MADAME ARCATI: Rachel Fitzhugh ELVIRA, the Blithe Spirit: Chloe Quinn Understudy for DR. BRADMAN: Benjamin Jacobsen Directed by Stephanie Newman Assistant Director: Aaron Carter Stage Manager: Anna Mae Whatley Production Assistants: Alex Frier, Joel Macha, Mary Chitwood, Chris Harper-Mercer, Isaac Guerrero, Ashley Jakubos Lighting Assistant: Devin Barnett Special Effects: Jim Smith, Keith Weikum Program/Ads: Fred Brenchley Marketing: Travis Newman Other Volunteers: YOU! Get involved and have some fun! However, everything to do with that production has been scrubbed and deleted. Including the FaceBook page (since deleted) But visible on Cache HERE and more HERE. Being part of an Umpqua college production class and performance etc. would run counter to the seemingly preferred media narrative of Chris Harper-Mercer being a loner, no? Indeed if you were to look for information about Chris Harper-Mercer even being enrolled as a student at Umpqua you might even find contradictions and obfuscations about it. It seems rather odd that only foreign publications even make note of this fact: “But he was listed as a “production assistant” in a Facebook post promoting a performance of a Noel Coward play by the school’s drama group” (link) ~ British “Police think Mercer may have been a student at Umpqua because he was found with a receipt from the campus bookstore showing he had purchased textbooks.” (link) ~ Canadian While generally there will always be a “fog” about events, as something happens and people rush around trying to identify the full story, one would think it would be really easy to determine if Mercer was a student, and what classes he was specifically enrolled for. Then there’s this little snippet which might clear all of this up: Stacy Boylan said his daughter told him the man “gave somebody a box, somebody who lived, and said, ‘You gotta deliver this.’ Somebody has a box. I don’t know what that’s about.” Law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation told CNN that the gunman handed his writings to a survivor, telling that person to give it to police, but the sources could not confirm the writings were inside the box. (link) So apparently Mercer has given a “manifesto” (another similarity to E. Sheppard Jr) to a surviving student of the shooting. Summary: The immediate on-line web history of Chris Harper-Mercer showed him to be a mixed-race, angry young man in general alignment with various radical racially aligned groups such as Black Lives Matter, Fuck The Police and Fuck Yo Flag – all of which carry a sentiment of favorability and ideological alignment with Islam which was similarly evident in the Ferguson protest movement. [ Against this backdrop shooting “White” “Christians” makes sense. ] However, in the course of several hours (one media cycle) – the media narrative is selling a profile of a loner, mentally disturbed individual without any mention of his previous writings (deleted/changed), behaviors (hidden) and social tendencies (ignored). Why? Perhaps the answer lies within the response to the shooting from the White House where President Obama took quickly to the microphones to decry another school shooting without fully understanding the motive and intent. Mercer’s possible motive and intent would now represent a political embarrassment against the backdrop of Obama’s speech if it aligns with something other than needed. obama-yapping-blah-blah-blah-speech-sad-hill-news2 Feel free to dump your additional reviews of information in the comments section. This entire thing is BEYOND SKETCHY. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/
19 posted on 10/04/2015 11:48:59 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Well Well Well looks like Daddy has some issues, no wonder his son turned into the whack job he did


20 posted on 10/04/2015 11:50:00 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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