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Saudi Arabian health ministry statement said 4,000 people died in Hajj stampede—then disappeared
Al Bawaba ^ | September 30, 2015

Posted on 10/04/2015 9:22:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There's strange news coming — and being redacted — from the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Heath about the death toll of Saturday's Hajj stampede in Mina.

As the baffling fatality numbers have shown, this is the worst disaster to strike Hajj since 1990. But just how large those numbers are is a debate still raging days after the accident.

The ministry's Arabic website said Tuesday some 4,000 people died in the crush. The announcement's since been wiped from the page, but not before people (including Al Bawaba) managed to capture a screen shot. See it below.

Here's the translation:

The Saudi Deputy Minister of Health Mohamed Aldowale stated that the ministry handed over a photo album with photos of 4,173 pilgrims who passed away in Mena accident, and the process of Identifying the bodies has started.

He also added that the big number of death was due to heat, suffocation and stampede, according to the report by the Minister of Health.

The primary statistics indicated 769 deaths however our final numbers have increased to 4173 deaths after the ministry received several more bodies yesterday.

Despite all the rumors and news in the media, the ministry would like to reconfirm that this site and its social media handles are the only reliable and formal sources for official statements.

With the official death count tallied by the Saudi government so far floating around 800, that's a miles-long discrepancy not lost on social media users. Here's what one said to Vice Minister of Heath Hamad al-Dhewalia's Twitter handle, with a screenshot of the ministry announcement attached.

(TWEET-AT-LINK)

Translation: Hamad al-Dhewalia, is this from the ministry website? The statement is attributed to you, and the site looks like the ministry's official one. and the site looks as the formal one.

Between this and US's foggy statements on the Syrian rebel train-and-equip program, what's going on with government pages this week?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buhbye; goodriddance; hajj; islam; saudiarabia; saudis; whocares
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1 posted on 10/04/2015 9:22:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the Saudi’s play cockroach exterminator for a day?

As long as it’s not happening in their corner they’re content to sponsor terrorism around the world.


2 posted on 10/04/2015 9:24:21 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were mostly black and were scooped up with a front loader and covered up in a big pit.


3 posted on 10/04/2015 9:25:28 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Don’t worry, we will just breed more!!


4 posted on 10/04/2015 9:27:22 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m guessing the real number is more than 800.
It wasn’t an accident, it was a man-caused disaster.
The primary cause was Islam.
It’s Mohamhead’s fault.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 9:28:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The muzzie Rapture?


6 posted on 10/04/2015 9:28:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: FreedomStar3028

Albawaba? Didn’t Kid Rock sing a song called that?


7 posted on 10/04/2015 9:33:57 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Trump/Cruz 2016 or the other way around.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess they got trampled into a liquid goo that soaked into the desert sand


8 posted on 10/04/2015 9:38:15 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4,173 pilgrims or potential terrorist?


9 posted on 10/04/2015 9:38:32 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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To: Iron Munro

That’s almost 300,000 virgins needed ASAP.


10 posted on 10/04/2015 9:39:19 AM PDT by usual suspect
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s 4000 that have been slowly coming across the Mexico border.


11 posted on 10/04/2015 9:44:44 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least they will have clean background checks, i.e. deceased status wipes their rap sheets clean !


12 posted on 10/04/2015 9:46:04 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should have a Hajj every week.


13 posted on 10/04/2015 9:47:13 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: usual suspect
That’s almost 300,000 virgins needed ASAP.


14 posted on 10/04/2015 9:47:58 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: Salvey

“They should have a Hajj every week.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

Ding ding ding! Post of the Day !!!


15 posted on 10/04/2015 9:59:49 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That 4000+ dead in the stampede is probably true. This is a BFD.

Iran is pissed and this just adds a lot of fuel to the fire. Many Iranian VIP’s were killed.


16 posted on 10/04/2015 10:10:42 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I retract my suggestion that this annual stampede’s kill count should be made into a betting pool game. Obviously they are cooking the numbers and that ruins its game value.

That does NOT eliminate its entertainment value however, as it would still make a splendid South Park episode.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 10:34:12 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obamacons: The degenerate and venomous issue born of intimacies between Obama and neocons.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It was Allah’s will.


18 posted on 10/04/2015 10:50:24 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

It’s kinda strange that early reports said 300 dead, then 450, then 717, all in rapid succession (matter of hours) ... then it suddenly stopped at that number, even though the rescue hadn’t even finished by then ...


19 posted on 10/04/2015 11:28:23 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4,000? Well, that’s one for every person killed in the Twin Towers and the train and bus bombings in Spain and London. God is just.


20 posted on 10/04/2015 11:49:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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