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The F-35 Is Still the Worst Military Investment Ever
www.esquire.com ^ | Oct 1, 2015 @ 11:53 AM | Charles P. Pierce

Posted on 10/02/2015 1:05:36 PM PDT by maddog55

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“My guess would be you’re a Boeing employee or just drinking the koolaid.”

Well you are clearly an aviation expert. By the way the F-35 isn’t made by Boeing. They lost the competition.


21 posted on 10/02/2015 3:00:39 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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I meant LM not Boeing and the article is spot on.. esquire or not but if you want other sources:

http://www.pogo.org/blog/2015/04/gao-confirms-increased-f-35.html

http://aviationweek.com/defense/controversy-flares-over-f-35-air-combat-report

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-all-the-problems-with-the-f-35-that-the-pentagon-found-in-a-2014-report-2015-3

http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/661842.pdf

http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-364

22 posted on 10/02/2015 3:08:09 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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You must have just started paying attention to military weapons system development. They all have teething problems. With modern oversight any knownothing can read the problem reports and conclude stuff. If you want to go back in time you can find articles like that about every major (and minor) weapons system. If they naysayers had their way our military would be wearing furs and using clubs.


23 posted on 10/02/2015 3:47:08 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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I’m well more than well aware of military weapons systems and the whole defense acquisition process from start to finish. There’s good ones run by competent people with an end goal that supports the Warfighter needs and there’s the bad ones with no leadership or goals and are in a constant state of disarray and those problems are the way the governmental defense acquisition process usually works... it doesn’t. It creates problems by default.

A simple example: If I tell you to build me box, contract you for a box, pay you to build that box because that’s what’s needed, you start to build the box and then I constantly change everything about that box that I asked you do and when it’s time for that “program manager” to rotate out and his/her successor comes in and wants everything changed and your box now becomes a round tube that doesn’t do anything that it was originally designed to do to start with and then to fix it you throw $$ after $$, slide schedules and paint a pretty picture to the tax payer that everything is fine but in reality it’s a disaster then you have what we call the Defense Acquisition Process.


24 posted on 10/02/2015 5:13:42 PM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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Leave it to GOVERNMENT and you get screwed

And yet look at the idiots that want to turn their entire Lives over to it... I’d say let them but then ... They want to
(1) Make me, my kids Pay for it
(2) Drag me, my kids into it as well

Rush Limbaugh did not get his Wish
Obama is succeeding


25 posted on 10/02/2015 9:40:35 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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A10
P3C
B51

Just 3 AC that will work today as they did in the past, will work in the future as well


26 posted on 10/02/2015 9:42:57 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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P-8 trying to replace the P-3 is another massive failure and a very costly one. Taking over the P-3 mission from high altitude required changing everything the P-3C could do quicker, cheaper and for longer periods of time. Then there’s the infrastructure for the P-8, new hangars, ramps spaces had to be redone for the weight all new GSE and the cost just continues to pile up.


27 posted on 10/03/2015 5:38:12 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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