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To: sauropod

We agree there, but I’m just worried that Pooty Poot won’t stop with just Syria.
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There is an excellent chance he would NOT stop with Syria. Putin knows that Iraq is hanging on by a thread, and he also knows that Iran is depending on Russian support (or at least acquiescence) in order to pursue their nuclear goals.

Putin looks at the chess board and sees no threatening pieces directed at him, our ‘Queen’ in the White House is in no position to oppose him, so it is entirely possible that Putin sweeps the board.

A humiliating geopolitical defeat for the U.S.?

Absolutely. And whose fault?

Our fifth column of traitors, consisting of liberal ‘RATS, compromised GOPe-RINOs, and America-hating radicals.

America is going to either pull out of this death spiral in the next election cycle, or there is going to be blood in the streets. And a second American Revolution is going to be the focus, not international relations for a very long time.


106 posted on 09/30/2015 5:38:52 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you really support Ted Cruz, don't be trashing Trump, Cruz doesn't, why should you?)
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To: mkjessup
Pretty accurate assessment, except I don't think Vlad wants the mad mullahs to actually get the Bomb.

re: a second American Revolution. I fear that may yet happen. I really fear it.

108 posted on 09/30/2015 5:42:53 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: mkjessup

Russia Iran and Iraq have set up a coordinating center in Baghdad

So Iraq is in Putin’s anti islamic state coalition along with Syria, China, Iran

I believe obama could have retained a US footprint in central Iraq, with Russia and Syria to the west and Iran to the south

But obama was too weak, and too untrustworthy to do so

So again, Putin fills the leadership vacuum

I wonder when Iraq will order the US military air to leave ?


113 posted on 09/30/2015 5:47:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: mkjessup; sauropod
You two seem to be complaining over spilled milk. To paraphrase Hemingway, “How did your country fail? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

The events leading up to this situation have been decades in the making. Perhaps the rot first manifested itself with the election of the chief grifter, but Iraq instead of SA after 9/11 was a special form of misdirection of force/effort. Hussein is an indictment of the people themselves; in essence national suicide. His disruptive MENA policy set the stage for others to assume the posture of positive roles.

In the final analysis, I believe Crimea will prove to our Waterloo. Syria is just the follow up act, to be continued by a series of logical, progressive moves throughout the region. Nukes will prove to be useless, resulting in - as usual - force of will to be the determining factor. 20+ years overseas, and the American people are spent & done. Compare that to the Russians & Chinese, who have generations of humiliation to be atoned.

The true death knell will be the eventual demise of the petro-dollar. That's why SA is the true strategic linchpin. I think the smart money already knows this. Once we can't print our way out of trouble, then the true social/internal security impact of open borders will really begin to be felt. The eventual fragmentation of the states would be the final nail in the coffin.

Some will say this could have been avoided, but I think historians might have a view of inevitability. After all, how was Clinton elected? What events led to the country being so morally/intellectually weakened even at that stage? You can keep going back, perhaps locating the poison pill that set our current events into motion.

227 posted on 09/30/2015 8:17:35 AM PDT by semantic
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To: mkjessup

So much can happen in a year. Will the election of new leaders get here in time? I’m pessimistic here.


417 posted on 09/30/2015 10:42:32 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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