Posted on 09/26/2015 8:01:14 AM PDT by lqcincinnatus
Not even close.
At no time has he presented himself as being a woman. That's all about your own assumptions, not Elsie being in any way "an impersonator", or else you are living venison with brown fur(?) that has learned how to type and post comments on internet forum threads, and I'm some sort of winged, fire-breathing mythological creature.
So keep the false allegations to yourself.
I don't what to hear it, and I don't need to hear any crap out of you, all because I showed you where you had been going wrong, and those mistakes & misunderstanding had led to yourself taking offense.
It's not my fault you did not, and possibly still do not understand Elsie.
He's been here for many years. Where have you been?
I thought most everybody knew Elsie, by now.
It should be obvious to most any long-time member that he is not a promoter of Mormonisms, but instead, is a critic of the same.
It's not as obvious that the name is not the sex identity, although he has told many who he is, and generally where he lives (approximately) and what his home life is like, etc.
Sorry you missed it. But that doesn't justify you flipping false accusations and insult in my direction.
But go ahead, keep it up. What I won't do is go running to JimRob to save me.
I can handle it myself.
So far, I've held back. Don't push your luck.
And the land? So I am correct...HUMPHHH.. Obviously I was referring to the Jubilee year where all land would be returned and debts also forgiven. I have only been wrong twice this year, after three I have to go to bed until Jan 1 so cut me a break.
Shesh shanim titzrah tsadakha, v'asafta et t'vuatah, v'hashviit, tishm'tanah un'tashtah.
It means release THE LAND and abandon it every seven years. The fifty year cycle was the Jubilee, with the additional proviso that the people were to return to the tribal lands of male progenitors.
I have only been wrong twice this year, after three I have to go to bed until Jan 1 so cut me a break.
Get your nightie on. I wrote a whole book on the Sabbatyh and Jubilee years that has been reviewed by Shemitta law experts in Israel as well as an Israeli born linguist. You can read his comments here.
(Respectful) laughter ensues.
Its wrong to be forced to sleep in until next year if you make only one more mistake. That's not in the book of approved rules.
At this point I'm responding to your rudeness, and calling you out on it.
He's used a similar image himself (usually with a large magnifying glass, such as here) in joking fashion.
You just used it recently (minus the magnifying glass) just as a 'cow'.
Are you in truth a "brown deer"?
If you thought that Elsie was actually a woman, then posting image of Elsie the cow could be insulting, couldn't it?
Yet you did that, interacting with Elsie, then whined later that he was stalking you,even while you thought he was a she.
But you've dished more than a few insults out to Elsie in the last few days, before running off to JimRob.
It was yourself doing that, and what you said about him (that he was a she, and a fruitcake too) that caught my eye.
But other than having "Elsie" as a FR handle, which you obviously assumed indicated that he was a she, the man has never done a thing in the way of presenting himself as being a woman, and has freely enough corrected people as for that understandable error upon many occasions in the past, on this forum.
I attempted to do the same, to disabuse you of that erroneous impression in order to clear that up and right off the bat you handed me insult in regards to fruitcakes, after I had supplied a way out for that insulting terminology also.
You didn't get the memo from SLC? You know, the one which identified Elsie and a few other freepers as "enemies" of the Mormon Church?
And here I thought every Mormon in good standing knew about Elsie.
What else have you been falling behind on your reading about?
Here again is the statement you made to me that I'm now again rather compelled to bring to your attention'
When you said I claimed that he's a male impersonating a female, that was a form of error, if not a lie.
When you said further that I was defending that action Of Elsie impersonating a woman) that was false accusation made against myself based upon a form of error in the very least, if not [again] a lie.
So which is it?
Were you a bit wrong in your own assumptions --- or were you telling lies about what is is that I've said and done?
I suppose you simply will not or can not allow yourself to be corrected, even a little?
The thinking that Elsie was a Mormon (if that is indeed what you thought) means that you've been laboring under false impressions in regards to Elsie, for quite some time.
Or was it --- that he dared to criticize Mormonism, and go so far as to compare that with *some* aspect of Roman Catholicism in which both of those 'isms' came out looking less than wonderful?
Look here.
I've been replying to what you have said to me.
If you can't handle it, then I don't know what to say.
Perhaps; Try thinking for change, instead of emoting?
I'm not a Mormon.
But I once met some of the door-to-door types who spat out his name(Elsie) when I mentioned to them (trying to get their goat, I admit) that I knew all I needed to know about Mormonism already. They asked me where I learned it. I leered at them and said 'FreeRepublic' and mentioned that I was an old timer. (I've been here since '97 or '98, though under a different handle previously).
And now, would it be safe for me to assume that are not a member of the Mormon Church, either?
I didn't think you were, as best as memory served....but there for a little while you had me wondering.
On that thread which you are here discussing;
After some back-and-forth, you turned to calling P-Marlowe "an ignorant Mormon"(where you got that, I have no idea, other than you seem to have difficulty understanding others here), then switched to calling him a bigot in your own comment #80 alleging that "his posting history proved it", which was even more out of left field/bizarre.
Elsie questioned that sort of thing (at comment #105), as did others elsewhere on that thread.
In #106 Elsie posted a list of what the Mormon Church used to (and maybe still does) list as requirements for their "missionaries".
The issue of Mormon missionaries had been being batted around on that thread, by yourself also. You have no logical, rational standing to be complaining about what Elsie posted to those who were involved in that conversation, including yourself, for #106 was posted to 2 other individuals other than yourself, pinging there one of his old acquaintances who I think was once, long ago, a Mormon missionary, but is no longer a member of that church. People here are free to ping others to a particular comment, if they so desire. Its not unheard of...
The "any true Scotsman" fallacy, fails again. In context it could hardly be understood as being endorsement of what LDS 'authorities' lay upon their so-called missionaries. Personally, I do feel sorry for those poor misguided souls, and what they are put through. They do mean well, and I'm sure that more than a few are decent enough human beings, but still, Joseph Smith was no prophet.
Obviously, you missed what was going on, in that conversation which you linked to.
and as far as I can tell, you are also a fruitcake.
While you dished out "crap" like this which was more attributable to you on that thread, for reason of yourself not understanding what was going, and particularly for mistaking Elsie as being Mormon (along with doing the same for P-Marlowe).
You can call me names, if you like, but just remember that you did so, when or if you go running off to mommy.
For a supposedly long-term member, that would put yourself in a small select group. I'm not saying that I'm all that well liked, but plenty of people around here do know who I am, and know me fairly well. I think I can say the same for Elsie, as far as him being well known, even though it does often appear to myself that he is not always understood. If you knew where he was coming from, it would have all made better sense, even though portions may have been challenging to yourself, personally.
I recognize the name you are using here. We've both posted to the same threads in the past.
Suit yourself.
Does that mean you won't be posting to others without an invite, also?
Or are there two sets of rules? One which you go by, and another which I must adhere to?
I as much as asked you that question before. Apparently, in all the self justification combined with some degree of continuing insult, you must have skipped over it.
So far, after making initial comment to you about what you said that was in error (which errors you have not addressed other than to seemingly more firmly grasp at them, enough to squeeze accusation and further insult out of them, even if but to repeat and spread previous insult around now to me) I've been replying to what you say to me, while not getting much back in return other than your own continuing self-justifications, which I've dissected, and shown to be empty puffery.
Grow up, would you?
If you can't take it, don't dish it out. And you have been dishing it out.
Remember that when or if, in the near future, you decide to ping a moderator.
As it is, I've had to go into some detail as for what's been going on here, as something of a prophylactic effort to defend myself against the baseless 'stalking' charge.<> That charge is a 'meme' I recognize as being in the past circulated by a particular subset of freepers here, as form of forum tactic weapon by those who can't deal with the facts of a discussion, so pull out all stops --- "make them people over there stop disagreeing with me!" since they can't keep up with the bigger dogs, and get their feeling all hurt when their assertions are shredded and disproved before their very eyes.
Maybe you should just stay on the porch, or else don't post "STFU's" and the like, since it seems you just can't cut it.
Nothing 'replaced' at all; but merely pointing out the facts of the matter.
I can post Acts 15 if you wish.
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
Yes, we are saved by grace, but we are KEPT by works, according to a LOT of 'christian' teachings these days!
And it's for our own good; too!
;^)
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