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When you make a statement that all should be covered, you default to someone paying for it. Thats where we are now.

When you put govt in charge of healthcare, which is what wrecked it, you get what we have now.

When you say ‘all should/must/will’, then government hyperregulation has to follow. Has to.

When government gets between a doc/patient directly, or via insurance rules and regsa, people die.

There is one solution. Get govt the F’ out to the ultimate extent. Out of insurance, out of regulation and out of control.

Before this madness, more people were insured at less cost with fewer regs. Default to that. Then work on the rest. Not don’s way or the highway. Or Barrys. Or anyone elses. Want ins? Buy it. Want to go out of pocket, do it. And NO interference between doctor and patient via regs.

When you make a statement that all should be covered, you default to someone paying for it. Thats where we are now.

Norm, it's where we have always been. I explained that to you in detail. One way or another, those people have been, are now, and will continue to be covered.

Don't you think it's best we find the best way, lowest costing way, to achieve that? Isn't reducing that cost a Conervative ideal?

What's Conservative about going back to simply paying the costs of people turning up at the E. R.? This is the highest cost for the worst type of coverage. Is that Conseervative? Of course it isn't. Don't act as if there was a Coservative plan in place. There wasn't.

When you put govt in charge of healthcare, which is what wrecked it, you get what we have now.

I agree. I envision a savings program for citizens that would see their full health care, retirement, insurance, and other needs combined to provide much better individual financial standing, and removing the government entirely.

When you say ‘all should/must/will’, then government hyperregulation has to follow. Has to.

Norm, we were always providing health care services. You need to come to terms with that. By law, every emergency room in the nation had to provide health care services to any human being that showed up and needed care.

You are acting as if we had a Conservative plan and discarded it. That simply isn't true.

When government gets between a doc/patient directly, or via insurance rules and regsa, people die.

Norm, by this point you have to be refusing to deal with reality to continue to make comments like this.

70 - 80% OF ALL HEALTHCARE WILL BE PRIVATE SECTOR INSURANCE RELATED, DEVOID OF ANY GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT! Read this until you comprehend it.

There is one solution. Get govt the F’ out to the ultimate extent. Out of insurance, out of regulation and out of control.

Norm, how could you have missed the point I have been making. That is exactly what Trump is trying to do.

Even if he supports a plan to cover the 45 million, if it does it at a lower price and provides better service than in the past, isn't that reducing government involvement?

If we used to pay $150 billion for this segment's E.R. admission coverage, and that is reduced to $75 billion, isn't that moving government out by 50%? Yes it actually is.

What part of this are you unable to grasp? Trump is trying to move us as far off a government plan as we have had for at least 40 years.

Before this madness, more people were insured at less cost with fewer regs.

Norm, that will no longer be true when Turmp returns health care to the private sector. You can't grasp that? You tell me Norm, am I dealing with a person who can reason or not? If you can, please show some signs of it.

Default to that. Then work on the rest. Not don’s way or the highway.

Norm, you're completely out to lunch here. There's no connection to reality showing up in your responses. You are ignoring what Trump has proposed, to denegrate it off point. You are totally wrong here.

Or Barrys. Or anyone elses. Want ins? Buy it. Want to go out of pocket, do it. And NO interference between doctor and patient via regs.

I don't forsee Trump demanding people have insurance if they can cover their costs out of pocket.

Why you feel the need to bring that up when it's just plain absurd, is beyond me.

I found out that by paying 1600.00 cash for a hernia operation from a top flight doctor at Los Robles Hospital in Thousand Oaks, I could eliminate any wait. The insurance billing would have been $6,000. I rest my case.

Govt OUT completely, or we suffer double the premiums, and TRIPLE the deductibles. Now we are suffering them Obama should be doing 15 to life for his health care lies alone!