Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Mr Rogers

Given this fact, the SBC should just reunite with the National Baptist Convention (NBC); National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.; (NBCA); American Baptist Churches USA (ABC); and Baptist Bible Fellowship International (BBF).

It apparently makes no difference who the powerless “President” is, since every pastor has complete and total freedom to say and do whatever he pleases, so then there’s absolutely no need for different Baptist denominations in the U.S. Add up all the Baptists denominations and you might outnumber those pesky Catholics who get all the attention.

Also given that fact, I’d hope and pray you don’t end up with some self-described “Southern Baptist” pastor running around telling everyone that Jesus wasn’t divine, the holy spirit doesn’t exist, and the Bible is a fairy tale. Or maybe you could even have one going around preaching that Muhammad is a prophet like a decently defrocked Methodist pastor tried to do. Good luck with that one since your SBC is absolutely powerless to do anything about such an apostate self-identifies as a pastor in the “Southern Baptist Convention”. The Unitarians certainly haven’t been helped by letting their pastors say and believe any theological viewpoint they want. I believe they even have atheist “pastors” now.


115 posted on 09/24/2015 9:44:49 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies ]


To: BillyBoy

“Also given that fact, I’d hope and pray you don’t end up with some self-described “Southern Baptist” pastor running around telling everyone that Jesus wasn’t divine, the holy spirit doesn’t exist, and the Bible is a fairy tale.”

If the local Baptist church did not throw him out, then he could not be dealt with until the annual convention. The annual convention meeting could throw his congregation out. We only have an annual meeting to do it in.

“Given this fact, the SBC should just reunite with the National Baptist Convention (NBC)...”

We have theological differences with some of the other Baptist conventions, and thus do not support their seminaries - or they support ours. But a Baptist church can be a member of more than one convention.

“Good luck with that one since your SBC is absolutely powerless to do anything about such an apostate self-identifies as a pastor in the “Southern Baptist Convention”.”

Since each baptist church is autonomous, no one in the SBC CAN do anything about it until the annual convention meets. Then a vote of those attending the convention can remove the congregation. It happens at times, usually over something like ordaining women as pastors or accepting homosexuality.

I was baptized by a pastor in the American Baptist Church. I’ve been a member of baptist churches who were not part of the SBC, and of those who were. Having moved around a lot in the military, I’ve been in a lot of churches. About half were SBC. The church I’m a member of now is in the SBC, but we have had discussions about leaving if the SBC gets too political.

All of this follows from letting the Holy Spirit be the “Vicar of Christ” instead of man - as the scripture says:

“For if I did not go away, the divine helper would not come to you. But if I go, then I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convince the world of the meaning of sin, of true goodness and of judgment. He will expose their sin because they do not believe in me; he will reveal true goodness for I am going away to the Father and you will see me no longer; and he will show them the meaning of judgment, for the spirit which rules this world will have been judged.

12-15 “I have much more to tell you but you cannot bear it now. Yet when that one I have spoken to you about comes—the Spirit of truth—he will guide you into everything that is true. For he will not be speaking of his own accord but exactly as he hears, and he will inform you about what is to come. He will bring glory to me for he will draw on my truth and reveal it to you. Whatever the Father possesses is also mine; that is why I tell you that he will draw on my truth and will show it to you.”

But I’m not sure someone who is a member of a church whose popes have included murderers and adulterers has much business criticizing others. Your bishops and popes have often been disgraces who revel in their public sins. Given the child molesters and practicing homosexuals who have run rampant in the Catholic Church, getting upset because baptists don’t care who the SBC president is seems a bit out of proportion.

Indeed, Pope Francis the Communist is only preaching to Congress what the Catholic Bishops in America have been preaching a long time...


116 posted on 09/24/2015 10:10:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson