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Ben Carson Exposes Islamic ‘Taqiyya,’ But There’s Even More You Should Know
PJ Media ^ | 09/23/2015 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 09/23/2015 7:48:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Of all the points presidential hopeful Ben Carson made in defense of his position [1] that he “would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation,” the most poignant was his referencing of taqiyya, one of Islam’s doctrines of deception.

According to Carson, whoever becomes president should be “sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran”:

“I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country,” Carson said, referencing the Islamic law derived from the Koran and traditions of Islam. “Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”

Carson said that the only exception he’d make would be if the Muslim running for office “publicly rejected all the tenants of Sharia and lived a life consistent with that.”

“Then I wouldn’t have any problem,” he said.

However, on several occasions Carson mentioned “Taqiyya,” a practice in the Shia Islam denomination in which a Muslim can mislead nonbelievers about the nature of their faith to avoid religious persecution.

“Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals,” Carson said.

Considering that the current U.S. president has expunged all reference to Islam in security documents and would have Americans believe that Islamic doctrine is more or less like Christianity, it is refreshing to see a presidential candidate referencing a little-known but critically important Muslim doctrine.

However, the widely cited notion that taqiyya is only a Shia doctrine needs to be corrected. This is false, and it lets the vast majority of the world’s Muslims, the Sunnis, off the hook.

According to Sami Mukaram, one of the world’s foremost authorities on taqiyya:

Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it … We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.[i] [2]

Taqiyya is often associated with the Shias because, as a minority group interspersed among their Sunni rivals, they have historically had more reason to dissemble. Today, however, Sunnis living in the West find themselves in the place of the Shia. Now they are the minority surrounded by their historic enemies — Western “infidels” — and so they too have plenty of occasion to employ taqiyya.

Making Muslims swear on Bibles would not be any defense against taqiyya. As long as their allegiance to Islam is secure in their hearts, taqiyya allows Muslims to behave like non-Muslims. Praying before Christian icons, wearing crosses, making the sign of the cross — anything short of actually killing a Muslim could be allowed. (In several instances, Muslims in the U.S. military exposed their true loyalties when they reached the point of having to fight fellow Muslims [3] in foreign nations.[ii] [4])

For those with a discerning eye, taqiyya is all around us. Muslim refugees have pretended to convert to Christianity (in the past [5] and the present [6]); an Islamic gunman gained entrance inside a church by feigning interest in Christian prayers [7]. Examples abound on a daily basis.

Consider the following anecdote [8] from Turkey. In order to get close enough to a Christian pastor to assassinate him, a group of Muslims — including three women — feigned interest in Christianity, attended his church for over a year, and even participated in baptism ceremonies. Said the pastor, Emre Karaali:

These people had infiltrated our church and collected information about me, my family and the church and were preparing an attack against us. … Two of them attended our church for over a year and they were like family.

If some Muslims are willing to go to such lengths to eliminate the already downtrodden Christian minorities in their midst, does anyone doubt that a taqiyya-practicing Muslim presidential candidate might have no reservations about swearing on a stack of Bibles?

Precedents for such treachery litter the whole of Islamic history, and begin with the Muslim prophet himself.

During the Battle of the Trench (627 AD), which pitted Muhammad and his followers against several non-Muslim tribes collectively known as “the Confederates,” a Confederate called Naim bin Masud went to the Muslim camp and converted to Islam. When Muhammad discovered the Confederates were unaware of Masud’s deflection to Islam, he counseled him to return and to try to get his tribesmen to abandon the siege. “For war is deceit,” Muhammad assured him.

Masud returned to the Confederates without their knowledge that he had switched sides, and began giving his former kin and allies bad advice. He also intentionally instigated quarrels between the various tribes until, thoroughly distrusting each other, they disbanded and lifted the siege, allowing an embryonic Islam to grow. (Here, a Muslim site extols this incident for being illustrative of how Muslims can subvert non-Muslims [9].)

If a Muslim were running for president of the U.S. in the hopes of ultimately subverting America to Islam, he could, in Carson’s words, easily be “sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran” and “publicly reject all the tenants of Sharia.” Indeed, he could claim to be a Christian and attend church every week.

It speaks well about Carson that he is aware of, and not hesitant to mention, taqiyya. But that doctrine’s full ramifications regarding how much deception it allows, and its practice by all Muslim denominations, not just the Shia, still needs greater awareness.

The chances of that happening are dim. Already “mainstream media” like the Washington Post have, incorrectly, taken Carson to task for “misunderstanding” taqiyya [10] – that is, for daring to be critical of anything Islamic. These outlets could benefit from learning more about Islam and deception per the below links:


[i] [15] Sami Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fil-Islam (London: Mu’assisat at-Turath ad-Druzi, 2004), p. 7, author’s translation.

[ii] [15] Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fil-Islam, pp. 30


Article printed from PJ Media: http://pjmedia.com

URL to article: http://pjmedia.com/blog/ben-carson-exposes-islamic-taqiyya-but-theres-even-more-you-should-know/

URLs in this post:

[1] in defense of his position: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/254330-carson-doubles-down-on-no-muslims-in-the-white-house

[2] [i]: #_edn1

[3] exposed their true loyalties when they reached the point of having to fight fellow Muslims: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/obama-modifies-u-s-oath-of-allegiance-to-accommodate-muslims/

[4] [ii]: #_edn2

[5] past: http://al-qantara.revistas.csic.es/index.php/al-qantara/article/viewFile/310/300

[6] present: https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/06/germany-turkish-muslims-pretend-to-convert-to-christianity-to-gain-residency/

[7] feigning interest in Christian prayers: http://www.kltv.com/story/30029326/pastor-speaks-out-about-man-who-allegedly-threatened-his-church

[8] anecdote: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/the-threat-of-islamic-betrayal/

[9] illustrative of how Muslims can subvert non-Muslims: http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=10831

[10] “misunderstanding” taqiyya: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/22/wapo-4-pinocchios-for-ben-carson-on-taqiyya/

[11] expert testimony: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/taqiyya-about-taqiyya/

[12] doctrine of tawriya: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/tawriya-lying/

[13] Islam’s Doctrines of Deception: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/islams-doctrines-of-deception/

[14] Recent examples: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/when-muslims-betray-non-muslim-friends-and-neighbors/

[15] [i]: #_ednref


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abedin; bencarson; deceiption; evil; huma; islam; jarrett; nefarious; obama; taqqiya
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1 posted on 09/23/2015 7:48:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Everything I know about them, I learned on 9-11. Move on. There is no end game to the conversation.


2 posted on 09/23/2015 7:50:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Any accurate history book also sums up my feelings toward them.


3 posted on 09/23/2015 7:52:09 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: Carson said that the only exception he’d make would be if the Muslim running for office “publicly rejected all the tenants of Sharia and lived a life consistent with that.”

Once you make LYING a tenet of your religion, everything you say becomes suspect.


4 posted on 09/23/2015 7:52:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

HOORAY Ben Carson
HOORAY Raymond Ibrahim


5 posted on 09/23/2015 7:54:02 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind

The DemocRAT Party has been practicing Taqiyya for decades.


6 posted on 09/23/2015 7:54:44 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: SeekAndFind

7 posted on 09/23/2015 7:56:49 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another story said that Carson’s contributions have spiked since this whole “controversy” has erupted over a Muslim president.

Isn’t it interesting that the media are in full outrage mode about this, but the people, who make these donations to campaigns, clearly have another opinion about Carson and what he said and what he meant. Interesting how out of touch the media can be sometimes.

Yet the media consistently take the position that the views of themselves and people on the upper west side are mainstream, while the positions of middle America are out of touch. We are in Orwell’s 1984 in that respect; up is down, black is white.


8 posted on 09/23/2015 7:57:00 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind
If a Muslim were running for president of the U.S. in the hopes of ultimately subverting America to Islam, he could, in Carson’s words, easily be “sworn in on a stack of Bibles, not a Koran” and “publicly reject all the tenants of Sharia.” Indeed, he could claim to be a Christian and attend church every week.

This is presented as a hypothetical possibility for the future. But it's not. Our present reality is due to this very act.

9 posted on 09/23/2015 7:57:26 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m glad he is exposing the truth of this “religion”. We don’t worship the same God. Islam and Sharia law is incompatible with the constitution and a faithful Muslim would be expected to falsely swear fidelity to the constitution as a way of undermining the US in accordance with taqiyya.


10 posted on 09/23/2015 7:59:38 AM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals,” Carson said.

It seems our entire political class has fully embraced the concept them selves.

11 posted on 09/23/2015 8:00:07 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: SeekAndFind

**Ping**

Excellent explanation and examples of taqiyya - Great important post to share while we can.
Wonder if UN, Quebec, EU nation hate speech laws would permit speaking these truths?


12 posted on 09/23/2015 8:03:39 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Taqiyya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals,”

So our politicians are following this now?


13 posted on 09/23/2015 8:04:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ping


14 posted on 09/23/2015 8:04:45 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Everything about mohammedanism I learned:

The Munich Olympics;
The bombing in downtown Bangkok in 1972;
The Achilles Largo;
The NYC World Trade Center in 1993;
The NYC World Trade Center - when they finished the job, on 09/11/2001.

Happy oktoberfest, y’all! go and eat all the schweine fleisch you can!


15 posted on 09/23/2015 8:06:04 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

That’s a small number you just mentioned :)


16 posted on 09/23/2015 8:06:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Interesting how out of touch the media can be sometimes.

They are not out of touch, they are clearly on the side of the enemy.

Hopefully this will expose more 'out of touch' voters to the truth about what is really going on with the media and our government.....

17 posted on 09/23/2015 8:08:07 AM PDT by Envisioning (4.13.15 - That awkward moment in history when 53 million racists became sexists...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Moslems: The verses in the koran that tell them to kill Jews and Christians

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them (2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies (22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels (8:60


18 posted on 09/23/2015 8:09:41 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Sacajaweau

Everything I know about them, I learned on 9-11. Move on. There is no end game to the conversation.


That’s a silly, short sighted thing to say. We’re in a war and if you were running it, we’d lose.

Dr. Carson is making others who didn’t know, aware of their “end game”.

The more that know, the better.

Good for Dr. Carson.


19 posted on 09/23/2015 8:10:10 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you Ben Carson.


20 posted on 09/23/2015 8:10:31 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama's Iran nuclear deal - The Devil is in the details.)
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