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Cruz rebukes Carson for comments about Muslim president [Original title]
The Hill ^ | 9/21/15 | Mark Hensch

Posted on 09/21/2015 12:05:21 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

Edited on 09/21/2015 3:25:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Admin Mod note: Title changed at source to Cruz: Carson's stance on Muslim presidents unconstitutional

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is criticizing GOP rival Ben Carson for saying that a Muslim should not be president of the United States.

At a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sunday evening, Cruz said religious convictions should have no bearing on one’s fitness for the Oval Office.

“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am constitutionalist,” he said, according to The Des Moines Register.

“My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God,” the 2016 Republican White House hopeful added of President Obama. “What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bencarson; cantbepresident; carson; constitution; cruz; lyingheadlinealert; muslim; president
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To: Lakeshark

Are you saying the constitution prevents Muslims from running for president?


61 posted on 09/21/2015 12:33:03 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: BlatherNaut

The point of not having a religious litmus test was to prevent government from corrupting Christianity. The muslim goal is the converse, to corrupt government with sharia. I disagree with Cruz on this point, strongly. And, being a student of law, Cruz should be familiar with this statement from the first Supreme Court Justice John Jay :
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."


62 posted on 09/21/2015 12:33:20 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Resettozero

Still trolling, huh!


63 posted on 09/21/2015 12:33:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlatherNaut

What in the world is Cruz talking about??? One’s religious convictions certainly does have a bearing on how one governs. Christians do NOT put their faith in JESUS CHRIST on a shelf when they enter the work place! Cruz is in Biblical error.

Has Cruz read and believe Matthew 10:32-33 (KJV)

“Whosoever therefore shall confess (acknowledge) Me (JESUS) before men, him will I confess also before My FATHER which is in Heaven. But whosoever shall deny (reject) Me before men, him will I also deny before My FATHER which is in Heaven.”

You can see CHRIST in His TRUE followers in word AND deed. TRUE followers of CHRIST are led by the HOLY SPIRIT 24/7, and that includes in the work place (Psalm 37:23). We are also NOT ashamed of the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST!

“For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of CHRIST: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”(Romans:16)

If Cruz is truly a Christian, he is going to be in for a rude awakening at the Judgement Seat of CHRIST if he puts JESUS on a shelf as he pursues his career(2 Corinthians 5:10).


64 posted on 09/21/2015 12:34:19 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: joethedrummer
I WAS a Ted supporter but either he’s too dumb to realize this that I have stated or he’s pandering to the PC crowd. Either way, sorry Ted, you LOSE. You get NOTHING. Good DAY, sir.

Queue the Powers Boothe clip.
65 posted on 09/21/2015 12:34:48 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Peter ODonnell
What if somebody shows up professing a belief that aliens have the right to take over the earth?

Assuming he is at least 35 years old, a natural born citizen, and a resident of at least 14 years...

Can he run under the Constitution? Yes! (Cruz is right)

Would we vote for him or consider those with his beliefs fit for office? No! (Carson is right)


66 posted on 09/21/2015 12:35:02 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: BlatherNaut; All

Noting that the Constitution’s prohibition on a religous test would also turn a blind eye to a radical, anti-Christian Muslim being president, a flaw with the religous test imo, as a constitutionalist I will point out that the Constitution is amendable.


67 posted on 09/21/2015 12:35:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Lakeshark; Servant of the Cross; xzins; CatherineofAragon

Lake, did you read the whole article? Cruz DID NOT CRITICIZE Carson. He simply had a slightly different take.....but they both agree it’s a BAD BAD idea to elect one......period.


68 posted on 09/21/2015 12:35:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: editor-surveyor

The problem islam has is that it is a POLITICAL, LEGAL (SHARI’A) SYSTEM HELL BENT ON WORLD DOMINATION MASQUERADING AS A RELIGION.

There is NO “Radical Islam”. It’s ALL JUST Islam and, if they adhere to the teachings of Mohammed, THEY’RE ALL RADICAL because, ultimately, they ALL want kafirs (that’s us) D.E.A.D.! Get used to it!!

If you genuinely want to understand the TRUE, VIOLENT, DUALISTIC, SCHIZOPHRENIC nature of ISLAM in order to become part of a solution instead of part of the problem that spells doom for Western Civilization (and, NO, that’s not too extreme a statement), you need to spend 40 minutes with Dr. Bill Warner here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

(Don’t be concerned when Dr. Warner mentions that he “sells” books. Though I suggest you sample the info in the first 5 minutes if only to get a sense of how thorough his research has been, if short on time, slide out past the 5 minute mark for the red meat beyond. THAT’S where the really good stuff is.)

And this is ESPECIALLY for any antisemites who view the “Jewish Conspiracy” as the primary threat to your existence and are put off because the video was posted by a Jewish group.  Try to think of any nations conquered by violent, bloody Jewish jihad and send me their names.

After watching this presentation, if you STILL believe that Bush was correct when he called islam a “religion of peace” (it’s not a religion and it ain’t peaceful) and Obama was right when he recently declared islam morally equivalent or superior to the Christian Crusades, you are DEFINITELY a BIG part of the problem.

Gang, this is a WAR and it is one we dare not lose!

PLEASE SHARE THIS BEFORE THEY STRIKE OFF YOUR FINGER TIPS, YOUR HEAD or SOME OTHER ESSENTIAL BODY PART!!


69 posted on 09/21/2015 12:35:33 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: so_real

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You’re not disagreeing with Cruz, you’re disagreeing with the strawman you created.

Enjoy the battle. Let us know who wins.


70 posted on 09/21/2015 12:36:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Correction: in Nobama’s case, it’s between him and Satan.
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Amen.

Allah = satan


71 posted on 09/21/2015 12:36:16 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: editor-surveyor
Still trolling, huh!

Believe I was here first today. Go to the back of the line.

BTW, a few kind FReepers clued me in on your backstabbing of me.

YOU act more like a troll than I.
72 posted on 09/21/2015 12:37:08 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: joethedrummer

The headline is lying. Read other comments on this and many previous threads today regarding what Carson and Cruz are saying.

They both agree with each other and are correct.

Do not fall for leftist lying headlines


73 posted on 09/21/2015 12:37:24 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: SmokingJoe
No, just that Cruz needs to say something like Trump and Carson did about the reasons we shouldn't trust a muslim as president.

I expect mealy mouthed from Jeb, not from Ted Cruz.

What he said didn't help himself one bit.

Sorry, it didn't, and so far he's been my number one choice. It makes him less desirable as a candidate when he sounds like Jeb. If Trump goes into the dumpster, Ted won't inherit his voters by sounding like this.

74 posted on 09/21/2015 12:37:34 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Dick Bachert

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This isn’t about Islam’s problem; it is about your lack of comprehension.

You let the MSM blow your mind for nothing.


75 posted on 09/21/2015 12:38:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cruz and Carson are both right.

The Constitution says you can’t just exclude someone from running because they are Muslim. So Cruz is right.

But Carson says Americans should not choose to vote for a Muslim, and there’s nothing wrong there with what he said.


76 posted on 09/21/2015 12:39:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: editor-surveyor

We cannot set religious tests for office in our laws.
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Yes we can...during town halls, debates, and in the voting booth.


77 posted on 09/21/2015 12:39:18 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR)
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To: SmokingJoe
It's not the Constitution that prohibits a muzzie from running.

It's the Koran.

 

 

Ben Carson is right, a Muslim president actually IS a bad idea, according to the Koran
sgberman.com ^ | 9/21/15 | Steve Berman

78 posted on 09/21/2015 12:39:53 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I didn’t say he criticized Carson, just that he should have allied himself with Trump and Carson on this one. As I told another poster, mealy mouthed is not what we need right now, and this was a poor (IMHO mealy mouthed) reaction on his part.


79 posted on 09/21/2015 12:40:07 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: joethedrummer

Nonsense.
Ted Cruz is exactly right. You try stopping any Muslim from running for president and see where that gets ya.


80 posted on 09/21/2015 12:40:26 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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