Posted on 09/21/2015 12:05:21 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
Edited on 09/21/2015 3:25:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Admin Mod note: Title changed at source to Cruz: Carson's stance on Muslim presidents unconstitutional
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is criticizing GOP rival Ben Carson for saying that a Muslim should not be president of the United States.
At a campaign stop in Des Moines, Iowa, on Sunday evening, Cruz said religious convictions should have no bearing on one’s fitness for the Oval Office.
“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am constitutionalist,” he said, according to The Des Moines Register.
“My view, listen. The president’s faith is between him and God,” the 2016 Republican White House hopeful added of President Obama. “What I’m going to focus on is his public policy record.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
You may not like it but if we are to remain a Republic, you cannot pick and choose what clauses in the Constitution you like and those you don’t."
Well, I've seen a certain candidate's supporters say we don't need the Constitution anymore, so maybe that kind of thinking is a factor in what we're seeing.
Because those are the rules of this forum...
Expect people to challenge and TEST what Cruz and Carson supposedly said.
Actually, I expect intelligent people to find out what they actually said, rather than using an article written by a leftist "journalist" as a reason to attack them.
...it is my God-given right to use Scripture as the Standard to TRY/TEST ALL CANDIDATES for election.
No one, neither Carson nor Cruz, would disagree with that. The interviewer tried to bait Cruz into getting into a fight with Carson over Carson's comments. Cruz chose to avoid that trap, deal with only the issue of the Constitution, then focused his attack on Obama rather than Carson.
That said, he did absolutely nothing to support Carson and his opinion. Carson never said a Muslim could not be POTUS, he said he would not advocate for it. Sharia is not compatible with the US Constitution.
Ted left the room going off into the weeds as though he was in a race with Obama.
Terrible interview. Underwhelming again."
You're a Trump lover. Why do you care?
What an asinine statement. Cruz made one statement that was absolutely true - there is no religious test allowed by the Constitution. He said nothing to indicate that he was ok with a Muslim "ruling" over the country. Your hysterical comment notwithstanding, if the voters wanted to elect a practicing Muslim, nothing in the Constitution would prevent that. So according to the Constitution - you know, that pesky document that is supposed to be the basis for our government - a Muslim being president IS "ok". Whether it would be wise or a good choice by the voters or good for the country is a completely different matter.
Now, if a Muslim were running, I am sure Cruz would be campaigning hard against that candidate - not on the basis of religion, but on the policies that the candidate would be likely to favor based on his religion. And if a Muslim were elected and began to impose unConstitutional policies based on Sharia, Cruz would be at the forefront of those calling for impeachment. You see, that is the difference between Cruz and you - he does not react emotionally to some hack journalist, but bases his positions and actions on the Constitution as well as his faith.
Who insinuated that? Not Cruz - he just noted that the government cannot impose a religious test for office. What the voter chooses to consider is completely up to him/her.
The “revised” headline insinuated that. Sorry, I’ve been standing up for Cruz throughout the thread. My issue is with the author. Stupid media. Can understand why you misinterpreted. Once I start posting from my iPhone I don’t always list the quote I’m referring to.
Why was it Ted's job to support Carson? He didn't criticize him, but he is not required to support him in all of his statements either. Ted answered the question he was asked, then moved on to the issues HE wanted to address, namely attacking Obama.
fine
I support Trump and I care. I think Cruz is fantastic and did nothing wrong. Can’t stand any commie media ploy to try to use disinformation to destroy anybody! Media scum.
No harm, no foul... :-)
He isn’t running against Obama. Sorry, this was not a good interview in my opinion.
Cruzers can never take any criticism. Why is that? Sometimes it can help. Especially when more votes are needed.
Neil was a jerk too, but he usually is.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I doubt you actually read or saw the whole interview. You seem to think that Cruz had some sort of obligation to jump on the Carson bandwagon and affirm his comments. How often do we complain about the media making every Republican candidate answer for comments made by another Republican? And when they did that to Ted and he refused to fall for it, suddenly we have "conservatives" who are outraged that Ted will not answer for Carson's comments!
Cruzers can never take any criticism.
Accepting constructive criticism is a far cry from allowing false and misleading statements to go unchallenged...
Every Republican should be running against Obama, Clinton and the entire Democrat machine.
You're saying that stating: "There is no religion requirement for the office of president in the constitution" extends to "you would die for somebody’s right to slit your throat if you don’t convert to his religion."?
Sorry, FRiend, while we are in complete agreement on the dangers of Sharia and Islamists, your argument here is not coherent.
thanks for your reply..
Thanks, mmichaels. :)
I would hope that all will read your divisive posting history.
There is no underground on FR, its all just a few clicks away in your history. I had no antagonism toward you until you began your games.
All that I have ever voiced about you has been said first to you directly in hopes of ending the nonsense. The futility is now obvious from your show on this thread.
Its been a long time since I posted anything to you, and the silence was broken at your request, facetiously I guess. I harbor no particular animosity toward you, other than the games, which you could discontinue at will.
Fitting that this is a thread about deception!
So be it.
I was listening to Mark Levin and he was complaining about, without calling his name, Cruz and what he was saying about Carson (as per the headline). Then he got the more precise information, and Cruz was not saying what he was reported as saying. Those misleading headlines concerning Cruz was what I had in mind myself.
“You’re saying that stating: “There is no religion requirement for the office of president in the constitution” extends to “you would die for somebody’s right to slit your throat if you don’t convert to his religion.”?
Of course not, except when it comes to Islam, which was what the topic was. The main topic was Islam. I don’t think that our forefathers ever dreamed that Islam, which they hated, would ever have an opportunity to use the Constitution to obtain office. They probably had more confidence in the intelligence of the American people.
Anyway, if I came on too hard, I apologize.
I don’t think that our forefathers ever dreamed that Islam, which they hated, would ever have an opportunity to use the Constitution to obtain office. They probably had more confidence in the intelligence of the American people.
Yes. Intelligence and, as you said before, Christian values. And knowledge of history, appreciation of freedom and what it took and takes to keep it. And, family, community, God.. So much has been lost.
Andrew Breitbart's statement that "Politics is downstream from culture" seems very true to me now. We're fighting all these battles downstream from the battleground we lost and need to win back.
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