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Who Really Won Last Night’s Debate? The Betting Markets Weigh In
NY Mag - Daily Intelligencer ^ | September 17, 2015 | By Eric Levitz

Posted on 09/17/2015 4:10:14 PM PDT by onyx

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1 posted on 09/17/2015 4:10:14 PM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx

How did I do?

CNN debate changed nothing but rearrange the seats of 2nd, 3rd and 4th place

Uncle Miltie to Bigtigermike

Not that anyone cares, but I’d give the following scores, in terms of what I expect are the resulting polling gains or losses by the candidates:

Fiorina +5% (Can someone get her a happy pill while she’s winning, please?)
Trump -2% (You’re HIRED [if I can buy your foreign policy experience]!)
Carson -4% (You’re right, and we love you, Dr. Grampa!)
Jeb! -1% (Boehner + McConnell can’t be all bad, can they?)
Cruz +/- 0% (Dude, I love you, but you gotta try to OWN the stage)
Rubio +1% (Earnest Kidlings unite!)
Paul -2% (Dude, is it like 4:20 yet?)
Huckabee -2% = +0.1% (You both know who you are, Praise JEEEZus!)
Christie -1% = 0% (Give this man a lunch bucket!)
Kasich -3% = -2% (Sucks oxygen out of the room and everyone dies of boredom)

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2 posted on 09/17/2015 4:12:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Imagine the GOPe spending half as much energy attacking liberals as they do conservatives!)
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To: onyx

Did you catch that Carly chose the call name Secretariat. That makes her Horse face? And she is upset about Trumpentioning her face!


3 posted on 09/17/2015 4:14:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Read my lips: no more Bushes)
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To: onyx; GeronL; MeshugeMikey

Never bet against the man who owns the casino.


4 posted on 09/17/2015 4:15:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Trump -2% (You’re HIRED [if I can buy your foreign policy experience]!)

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At least as much as Obama had?


5 posted on 09/17/2015 4:16:12 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: hoosiermama

Trump will easily win. No one supports cross eyed bush!! He wants “Margret Thatcher” on the face of the $10 bill. Over 1 million voted today on the Drudge Report , Time magazine ans WND . Trump was over 50% on all of them!!! It is OVER!!


6 posted on 09/17/2015 4:18:46 PM PDT by WENDLE (The big question is who will be VP!!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Cruz +/- 0% (Dude, I love you, but you gotta try to OWN the stage)

The media will give all the time it can to Trump, both to discredit conservatives as buffoons and to deprive any serious conservative candidate of the opportunity to convince voters otherwise. They won't give a second more to Cruz than they can avoid.

7 posted on 09/17/2015 4:18:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Cruz +/- 0% (Dude, I love you, but you gotta try to OWN the stage)

Jake Tapper was more interested in Bawbwa Wawa type "how did you feel when Trump said this about you" type questions. That is not a debate.

Someone should have asked CEO Fiorina about this quote:

"There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore."

Outsourcing and offshoring have costs to America that are not being discussed.

8 posted on 09/17/2015 4:19:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Will Bernie Sanders run as an Independent if he does not get the nomination of the Democrat Party?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Not bad, save for Bush’s gain!


9 posted on 09/17/2015 4:20:34 PM PDT by onyx (Our 4th Qtr. FReepathon starts 10-1-! PLEASE Donate EARLY ON! Let's try to complete within 1 month)
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Cruz +/- 0% (Dude, I love you, but you gotta try to OWN the stage)

I think he's in a tough spot. The moderators avoid him and he doesn't want to be too strident. It's early and I think voters will cool on Trump. The SEC primaries are the key. I'm praying all the establishment rino's (Bush, Kasich, Rubio, Christie ) get washed out then and we see Cruz, Trump, Fiorina, and Carson fight it out.

10 posted on 09/17/2015 4:20:41 PM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: hoosiermama

Yes, I heard her give herself the name of Secretariat.

I like your take much more than she was implying with her choice.


11 posted on 09/17/2015 4:22:21 PM PDT by onyx (Our 4th Qtr. FReepathon starts 10-1-! PLEASE Donate EARLY ON! Let's try to complete within 1 month)
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To: onyx

Trump, Carson, and Walker did not lose. They didn’t win or lose. Jeb certainly did not win. Carly and Rubio spoke competently but that doesn’t mean they won. They are running for the GOP nominee. Only GOP voters can say. This GOP voter says no.


12 posted on 09/17/2015 4:22:34 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: hoosiermama
Did you catch that Carly chose the call name Secretariat. That makes her Horse face? And she is upset about Trumpentioning her face!

I thought it was because once Secretariat got the lead he never gave it up.

I think if she gets the nomination she would be a good POTUS.

13 posted on 09/17/2015 4:22:55 PM PDT by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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I wonder if anyone noticed Carson dissing Bush 43 when he said he was against the AFGHANISTAN war! I can't believe he would take a 3000 death, 4 airplane, Pentagon, 2 tower hit and then try to outwit the enemy without bombing them to hell. Take out how you might feel about Iraq or Bush. You can't attack America and not answer back.

I like Carson, but that was pitiful.

Cruz or lose.

14 posted on 09/17/2015 4:24:41 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: hoosiermama

I can sleep easier knowing that CNN’s diligent reporters fearlessly asked the difficult questions so early in the campaign.

Preferred call signs, the thing upon which the election hinges.

Thank goodness we can go to the polls armored with this knowledge.

;>)


15 posted on 09/17/2015 4:25:40 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: WENDLE

You really think it’s over...?

We have not been though one primary yet...!

We all know how the GOPe can and will corrupt that process...!

Trump has a long road to travel yet to tie this thing down...


16 posted on 09/17/2015 4:27:51 PM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: WENDLE

“Trump will easily win. No one supports cross eyed bush!! He wants “Margret Thatcher” on the face of the $10 bill. Over 1 million voted today on the Drudge Report , Time magazine ans WND . Trump was over 50% on all of them!!! It is OVER!!”

This is going to be so much fun.


17 posted on 09/17/2015 4:36:38 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Popman

Well,fair enough but I want to give you some hope. Trump hasn’t event started— When he unleashes his paid media ,it will be “shock and awe”!! He is our new PRESIDENT!! bush wanted an English prime minister on our $10 bill!! Holy crap!! Then FiaRINO is a joke. She ran two companies totally in the ground!! She ran as a LIBERAL in California. She is a SEXIST!!


18 posted on 09/17/2015 4:39:06 PM PDT by WENDLE (The big question is who will be VP!!)
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To: wmfights
You got to be kidding.

She got crushed by Idiot Babs Boxer in the CA senate race.

The entire Board of HP Campaigned against in tne Gop primary !

Former employees were coming out everywhere to stop her in CA.
This idiot almost destroyed HP by buying the God awful Compaq which was dying on the vine on its own.

She is truly hated person by those that know her.
The nasty piece of work tried to force out the HP family members on the Board.

Boxer had unlimited ammo just from people that knew her .

Her on any ticket would get Hillary or Biden elected in a Boxer like landslide .
That's why CNN ignore the rules and let her on the stage.

She is the DC Wall Street establishment assassin who will get the Dems choice elected !

19 posted on 09/17/2015 4:43:54 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: chuckles
Oh yes, I heard Carson's statements, but this is nothing new for Carson given that he's written about it and has also been questioned about being against the Afghanistan and Iraq "invasions."

Thursday, May 21, 2015
CONSERVATIVE HERO BEN CARSON DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO INVADE AFGHANISTAN


The Hill reports this today:
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told The Hill on Wednesday that it was a mistake for the U.S. to invade Iraq, arguing that the nation should have found a different way to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

“I’ve said definitively that I was never in favor of going into Iraq,” Carson told The Hill in a phone interview, noting that he has previously addressed the matter in some of his books....
Though don't get the idea that he's a pacifist:
“I would have gotten rid of the problem of Saddam Hussein some other way,” he continued. “When you go into a situation with so many factions and such a complex history, unless you know what you’re doing or have a long-term strategy, it just creates more problems.”

When pressed on how the U.S. should have toppled Hussein without sending troops into the country, Carson said that “there are a lot of ways to get rid of people.”
Y'know, we have ... ways.

I don't know what he thinks we could have done. But it's true -- he's been saying this sort of thing for a while. In fact, as the Daily Caller noted in 2013, he was against invading Afghanistan after 9/11. He had a simple alternative to that war as well:
“I actually wrote President Bush a letter before the war started and I said, you know, what I would do is I would use the bully pulpit at this moment of great national unity and, very much in a Kennedy-esque type fashion, say within 10 years we’re going to become petroleum independent,” Carson told TheDC.

“And that would’ve been much more effective than going to war because, first of all, the moderate Arab states would’ve been terrified. And they would’ve handed over Osama Bin Laden and anybody else we wanted on a silver platter to keep us from doing that.”
Simple!

And yes, all this was spelled out in his 2012 book, America the Beautiful:
After the 9/11 crisis almost everyone united behind President George W. Bush for a reason. Whether America's ensuing steps into war in Afghanistan and Iraq will be seen as positive remains to be seen, but I can't help thinking there may have been a better way to react that would not have cost us so many lives and financial capital. I believe that if the president had seized the moment and declared that we would become petroleum independent within the next 10 years as part of our efforts to strip terrorism of its resources, that business, industry, academia, and everyone else would have been foursquare behind him, and we would have been much further ahead in the fight against terrorism than we are today.

Oil prices would have fallen dramatically in an attempt to soften our resolve, but good leadership would hopefully have recognized and compensated for such a ploy. The point, of course, is that in some cases, clever tactics can be employed outside of military action to respond to hostile actions
I don't know how this is going to go over when Carson is participating in the presidential debates. (And yes, right now it looks as if he's going to make the cut.) But it's going to be entertaining. I hope someone asks him about Vietnam, and he tries to tell a rock-ribbed Republican audience what he told us in America the Beautiful:
In the case of Vietnam, we were trying to stop the spread of communism, which seems like a noble cause to those who hate communism. However, many people love communism, and certainly everyone should have the right to live under the system of their choosing.
Yeah, that should go over well in front of an audience of Iowa Republicans.

Conservatives who made Carson a hero bought huge quantities of his books. Did they ever actually read them?

20 posted on 09/17/2015 4:43:58 PM PDT by onyx (Our 4th Qtr. FReepathon starts 10-1-! PLEASE Donate EARLY ON! Let's try to complete within 1 month)
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