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Donald Trump: The Only People Who Like Him Are the Voters
Townhall.com ^ | 9/16/15 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 09/17/2015 7:25:13 AM PDT by IChing

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To: goldstategop
I thought Ted Cruz won the debate if you score the debate old school, meaning getting across your POV on the issues without serious counter arguments.

For the rest it was pretty much a verbal brawl.

41 posted on 09/17/2015 7:59:42 AM PDT by AU72
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To: IChing
Trump is no shallow suit, as you say. Wonkish he isn’t either — that’s the point.

No one's asking him to be wonkish, but it would help if he showed ANY substance.

42 posted on 09/17/2015 8:00:01 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: henkster
Please be specific and tell me where the premise of this article is wrong without engaging in an ad hominem attack on the author.

Duh! If it's not obvious you're not worth noticing, because you don't know it's obvious to anyone who's worth noticing that it's obvious! </sarc>

43 posted on 09/17/2015 8:00:27 AM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: henkster

I agree with you on all points, and your post just sparked a bit of insight. For personal reasons have the deliberate border collapse on a back burner. But the deliberate, de facto open border policy shows like no other issue the utter indifference of the American elite to what happens to ALL THE REST OF US.

Both parties have sold Americans out for transnationalism. Their sedition is naked on this issue. I wonder how they would fare in a type of Nuremburg trial, addressing their emails, connections, and pay offs regarding their willful sabotage of border security? Would that we were like Iceland, and would put these people in the dock for malfeasance in office.


44 posted on 09/17/2015 8:00:42 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

I like the way Trump thinks, but like all the candidates, there was a ton of talent on the stage IMO.


45 posted on 09/17/2015 8:01:08 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I’m not prepared to trust someone who can’t answer questions honestly.

Trump says, trust me. That’s not good enough for me, I want to know his philosophy of life and of government.

I wouldn’t trust someone who isn’t prepared to make a good case as to why we should hand him the keys to the most powerful office on the earth.

I’m still waiting to be convinced.


46 posted on 09/17/2015 8:01:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: IChing

Trump needs to raise another hackle. He should ask publicly,

“Why is Obama letting in so many Muslims, and why is everybody ignoring this problem?”


47 posted on 09/17/2015 8:02:32 AM PDT by RatRipper (The biggest threat to US national security is our government and those in it.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

One thing I’ve learned in my life is that there is no one size fits all regarding people and events. It depends :) on which people, what events.

Trump has touched on that in a couple of interviews, saying if you have 14 points, when you get to the deal, you may have to change point 2, etc. Paraphrased of course.

I can understand that clearly.


48 posted on 09/17/2015 8:02:50 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Big Horn

I’m not voting on debating talent...


49 posted on 09/17/2015 8:03:14 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

No, it’s really not. He’s not been a pol before and he’s still working with his team to flesh out a number of his major policy positions. Sure, he leans more than he should on the strength of his personality, but he’s been better and smarter at attracting voters than any other candidate to this point—and that’s largely his doing, not his handlers’.

He’s very quick on his feet with a good sense of humor and he has, indeed, been very successful in a number of arenas. Most of the other guys up there are long-trained seals, where answering questions on just these topics have been their bread and butter for years.

If Trump doesn’t progress in details and specifics through the fall, yeah, he will fail.


50 posted on 09/17/2015 8:03:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Like Ross Perot, he is very good with one liners and entertaining generalities.

But getting him to provide substance on his views is an exercise in frustration.

Its an act that will eventually grow old and then the bottom will drop out of his run for the White House.

No one remembers Perot except as the funny guy who ended his campaign one day and paved the way for Clinton.


51 posted on 09/17/2015 8:04:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Don’t you think he’s sharp enough to appoint good cabinet positions, and listen to good advisors?

That is what running a business or country is all about, including proper goals and ethics.


52 posted on 09/17/2015 8:05:26 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Treason is as treason does, demons is as demUNs does.)
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To: IChing

Perfectly said, thanks.


53 posted on 09/17/2015 8:05:36 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: goldstategop

Exactly. I’ve seen Trump’s type many, many times before. On used car lots. On late-night infomercials. On street corners in Times Square.

The guy’s a huckster, plain and simple. He tells people what they want to hear, shucks and jives to obscure the fact that he’s blowing smoke, and does everything he can to keep them from peeking behind the curtain before he closes the sale. He’s a salesman, and a shady one at that. No surprise, considering his roots as a NYC real estate developer.


54 posted on 09/17/2015 8:06:20 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: kjam22
From reading his books I think it goes back further than Jeb.

Trump hates the whole Bush family even after endorsing GHW.

I don't know if it was “read my lips” or what but something happened during the first Bush presidency to cause him to hate the whole bunch of them.

I would like to believe it was because Bush took all of the positives of Reagan and threw them in a pile on the floor but I don't know the real reason.

55 posted on 09/17/2015 8:06:53 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: Amntn

I’d guess if a person follows the money they’ll get to the source.


56 posted on 09/17/2015 8:08:23 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: goldstategop

It is not pure emotion driving Trump’s support. Many of us who do support him recognize that he is not a philosophical conservative. We have watched the GOP machine prove itself for years to be ineffectual, contemptuous and treacherous to its base. We recognize that Trump -might- be sincere on a few points where we agree, and are willing to give the man a chance to effect good policy. Policy which we know from experience the GOP machine will pervert, subvert, or simply ignore.

That is not an emotional assessment. It is the intellectual recognition that the Republican Party is treacherous, enervated and hostile towards conservatives.


57 posted on 09/17/2015 8:08:28 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: goldstategop

Are you going to wait for the fallout of another National Socialist Democrat holocaust as well?


58 posted on 09/17/2015 8:09:03 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Treason is as treason does, demons is as demUNs does.)
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To: goldstategop

Whether or not Cruz is best suited for the presidency—and yeah, I’d take him first for the position among the alternatives right now—he’s not best suited to win the two races he needs to get there. Just comes across as oily and posturing, like a televangelist, in his delivery, and has no sense, such as Trump has a keen one, on how to connect with big numbers of average people. Cruz is also beholden to his top donors, for whom religious liberty is their single issue, so he’s even hampered on an issues point in executing his race.

Cruz’s best chance at this point is to sneak in as Trump’s veep and move up from there.

Now, IMO Trump will also have to learn (fast) not to mug so much for the camera in debates or to gratuitously go after small fry like Rand and all of that. But he is sharp—like Cruz or Carly or Ben or Bobby—with much more emotional intelligence in, again, connecting with people. In that way, he’s probably more like Christie than any of the other candidates.

Trump’s still got to learn, but he’s in a great position to have the luxury of a sizable lead while doing so.


59 posted on 09/17/2015 8:09:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: goldstategop

Perot said he sat in a GM meeting and said lets pick one thing on this car and make it the very best there is. Even if that one thing was the cigarette lighter... I remember that :)


60 posted on 09/17/2015 8:09:44 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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