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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; cripplecreek
"Ted Cruz has stated unequivocally that he does not support amnesty, and does not support a path to citizenship. You're repeating yourself. Cruz opposes amnesty which he defines as a pathway to citizenship. He doesn't oppose granting legal status, which, by the way, guarantees they will become citizens at some point regardless of what anybody says:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/08/ted_cruz_vs_donald_trump_whos_stronger_on_immigration.html"

Did you think you found yourself a "gotcha?" Well, you haven't, and here's why.

First I need to encourage you to put aside your Trumped-up fantasies that mass deportation of every single illegal alien is going to happen. It simply isn't. What WILL work is taking away the welfare benefits and the freebies so they crawl back over the border themselves.

Also, the amendment Cruz made to the Gang of Eight bill was made when Harry Reid was still the Prince of the Senate.

Now, since you provided that link, let's consider what Trump is saying about immigration. Last night he said that we should throw them out and let the good ones back in. Previously he has said we should let foreigners stay in the country if they want to attend college.

And he said he wants talented foreigners to come into the country to work because we need them.

Not quite as hardline as you want to believe he is, is he?

What we need to do first is to secure the border. It doesn't matter what else we think about immigration until we do that. Cruz understands it. Trump says he does.

Cruz wants to build a fence---he reiterated that last night. So does Trump, if you believe him.

So we see that, while you try to paint Trump the shyster as being somehow superior to Cruz on the immigration issue, he isn't. What we know is that Cruz has a history of backing up words with action, while Trump has a habit of making grand promises without following up.

You'll never find a perfect candidate and I think you probably know at least that much. Therefore, I'll take proven conservative Cruz over liberal Donald Trump.

"Translation: You're probably a closet amnesty supporter anyway who opposes the border wall and deportation of illegals. Hence to build a wall is, to you, "magic," because you are against it."

Yep, you pegged me, LOL. I want Mexicans flooding over the border..as many as possible. I secretly want them to take over the country and turn every restaurant into a tamale stand. I've been successful with my covert desires up until now, until you cleverly outed me.

You Trump worshipers embarrass yourselves with your naked emotion and your childishness responses.

"LOL, you're so pathetic that you have to project your own victimhood mentality onto others. I got you nailed on Ted Cruz and on your weakness on immigration. Go suck an egg."

You better watch that mouth, now, Sparky. Somebody might remember how you talk when you go over to the Religion Forum and try to act all holy.

163 posted on 09/17/2015 8:49:22 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...he will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Looks like there is now an "#IStandWithAnn hashtag.

She must be very proud that such fine upstanding folks are in her corner.



#IStandWithAnn
169 posted on 09/17/2015 9:46:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
First I need to encourage you to put aside your Trumped-up fantasies that mass deportation of every single illegal alien is going to happen.

The history of Ike's campaign against illegal aliens disagrees with you, Lib. If you're soft on illegal aliens, you're an anti-American or a useful idiot bringing ruin upon the country. Without deportation, we have only permanent democratic control to look forward to. I won't support it, nor any candidate who does not swear to do what every red blooded American knows needs to happen.

Now, since you provided that link, let's consider what Trump is saying about immigration. Last night he said that we should throw them out and let the good ones back in. Previously he has said we should let foreigners stay in the country if they want to attend college.

Let's compare the positions:

legalize 40 million illegal aliens vs-->

A merit system that deports everyone, forces anyone who wants to return through a legal process, and which also tempers their movement back by imposing standards new standards such as insuring they aren't going straight on the dole.

It's not perfect, but the winner here is a no brainer.

189 posted on 09/17/2015 3:35:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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