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1 posted on 09/16/2015 9:27:36 AM PDT by Theoria
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The Civil War began over a simple question...

...And the NYT has no clue what that simple question was.

2 posted on 09/16/2015 9:31:43 AM PDT by Rodamala
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Yeah, yeah, we’re all bad people, America is still a slave state and all whites should DDIIIIEEEEE!!!


3 posted on 09/16/2015 9:32:09 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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America NEVER had a “Civil” war.


4 posted on 09/16/2015 9:33:58 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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Surprising this coming from the times, but after reading in it’s entirety, I noticed how carefully the writer avoided applying any political affiliations to the parties involved.


7 posted on 09/16/2015 9:51:48 AM PDT by SteveinSATX
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To: Theoria
I have to say the New York times is right about this. There is an explicit causes in the Constitution protecting slavery.

Article IV, Section 2.

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

What that means is that States must respect the compelled labor laws of other states, meaning Slavery.

Calhoun was right. That clause forces all states to respect the slave laws of other states, meaning people can go into free states with their slaves, and the free state laws cannot free them.

10 posted on 09/16/2015 10:15:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves


12 posted on 09/16/2015 10:20:41 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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,,,,,, perhaps I say ,,,, but over 80% of the Confederate soldiers who fought in this war came from homes with no slaves and had no real interest in the slavery issue .


15 posted on 09/16/2015 10:25:31 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of adolescent propaganda & indoctrination :-)
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The fact that once slaves were freed and everything wasn’t fine and that blacks did not achieve equality in the north should say that wasn’t the main cause.


21 posted on 09/16/2015 10:44:15 AM PDT by rey
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This war ended 150 years ago. 750,000 people died because of it. Other nations were able to answer the question of slavery without a war and the death of so many people.

So how come a President who couldn’t avoid this war, is considered one of our nation’s best leaders? Surely there was something who could have done before 1861 to avoid such a travesty.

Even if it was postponed another 15-20 years, there had to be a better way.


22 posted on 09/16/2015 10:45:48 AM PDT by skinndogNN
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Walter Williams has two great pieces on this. AS always, it was about the money;

“Following the money might help with an answer. Throughout most of our nation’s history, the only sources of federal revenue were excise taxes and tariffs. During the 1850s, tariffs amounted to 90 percent of federal revenue. Southern ports paid 75 percent of tariffs in 1859. What “responsible” politician would let that much revenue go?”

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams071515.php3

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams072215.php3


24 posted on 09/16/2015 10:49:07 AM PDT by rey
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This article is absolutely idiotic. The three-fifths clause is not, however, the reason to criticize the original Constitution’s recognition of slavery as a nationally recognized institution. Instead, it is Article IV Section 2:

“No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall ... be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.”

The original Constitution authorized the enforcement of property rights in chattel slaves on a nationwide basis, even over the objections of majorities in Northern states. The Fugitive Slave Act was authorized under Article IV Section 2. Fun Fact: Administrators of the Act received a fee of 10 dollars for every slave returned; the fee was reduced to five dollars if the accused slave were released. Guess which way they typically ruled?


25 posted on 09/16/2015 10:49:07 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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The slavers at the NYT are still advocating the slavery of the people to the fascist/commie government state. Good thing we have lampposts from sea to shining sea to take care of these traitors to America.


30 posted on 09/16/2015 4:37:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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