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New Prime Minister of Australia - Inadvertent Propagandist of Islam
Beyond Popular Propaganda ^ | 09.15.2015

Posted on 09/15/2015 8:10:37 AM PDT by se99tp

"I mean Islam is an ancient religion of great scholarship" - said Mr. Malcolm Turnbull. He argued on the eyes of millions television viewers that " It is important for us that we promote and encourage Islam" (...) Mr. Turnbull statements seem to be misinformed and confusing which promote and communicate, at best, incomplete view of complex political reality. Because Islam has never been perceived by its proponents in Eastern world, as Christianity is being seen in Western civilization.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; isis; islam
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To: se99tp

Another reason here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG0WcjGHkEw

The slack-jawed bolshevik midget who wears heels while tricking around Gay Paris has another plan for his pet frogs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8yaiN6ew_g


21 posted on 09/15/2015 9:30:22 AM PDT by bayouranger (Those who are anti-islam are a National Security Threat.- J.Brennan CIA Dir. Feb10)
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To: bayouranger

The paid trolls are out in force in the comments on those videos. Pay no attention little sheep, it’s just politics as usual.


22 posted on 09/15/2015 9:31:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: se99tp

I doubt it is inadvertent.


23 posted on 09/15/2015 9:37:18 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: se99tp
Spain expelled the Muslims and seized their property....

Quote: On April 9, 1609, King Philip III of Spain decreed the Expulsion of the Moriscos (Spanish: Expulsión de los moriscos, Catalan: Expulsió dels moriscos). The Moriscos were the descendants of Spanish Muslim population that converted to Christianity under threat of exile or death from Ferdinand and Isabella in 1502. Between 1609 through 1614, the Crown systematically expelled the Moriscos through a number of expulsion orders in Spain's various kingdoms, meeting varying levels of success. Although initial estimates of the number expelled such as those of Henri Lapeyre reach 300,000 moriscos (or 4% of the total Spanish population), the extent and severity of the expulsion in much of Spain has been increasingly challenged by modern historians.[1]

24 posted on 09/15/2015 9:48:03 AM PDT by B212
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To: bayouranger

That second video is amazing. Sarkozy saying that whites should interbreed with blacks, but no such force will be applied to Arabs. What’s with that nonsense, that’s not the responsibility of government.

What are progressives, our mothers? These people are horrible.


25 posted on 09/15/2015 9:54:00 AM PDT by Vic S
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To: Vic S
Look for Australia to be taking in more Muslims to destroy any chance Australia has to get their country in order.

Because of its geographical isolation and self-contained border, I was hoping Australia could become the "white continent", a refuge for Western Civilization and European-descended peoples when the crap really hits the fan. But no. Always, a liberal has to crap in the punchbowl.

26 posted on 09/15/2015 11:03:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: NormsRevenge
Turnbull? more like FullaBull.

Or Turncoat.

27 posted on 09/15/2015 11:03:59 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Jane Long
Being replaced is more convenient, there....the globalists have to work a bit harder to do this, here in the USA.

We can't even get rid of Boehner.

28 posted on 09/15/2015 11:06:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

True...but, look how easily 0blama and establishment reps have been elected, and re-elected :(

And, we can’t replace ANY of them as easily, here, as they’ve done in Australia.


29 posted on 09/15/2015 11:22:32 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: se99tp

He argued on the eyes of millions television viewers....

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Translation, please. What? They don’t speak English in Australia?


30 posted on 09/15/2015 11:31:29 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: se99tp

Big mistake Australia for letting this guy get in charge.


31 posted on 09/15/2015 11:44:03 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Jane Long; Albion Wilde; onyx; DoughtyOne

And GS is big in favor of cap n trade.

The paris accords are coming up. wanna bet australia votes in favor of cap n trade of some sort?


32 posted on 09/15/2015 12:55:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Now we know why they replaced Abbott.

This has nothing to do with that. I don't know if Turnbull believes this or not, but Tony Abbott made plenty of conciliatory statements about moderate Islam as well - it's expected by a certain type of voter, and by certain sections of the media, and virtually all politicians pay lipservice to it, whatever they may privately believe. I won't condemn Turnbull anymore than the others. The proof will be in the pudding.

33 posted on 09/15/2015 1:40:47 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

It’s likely as well, as GS is a big supporter of the cap n trade scam, that Australia will be supporting whatever crap comes out of the Paris accords.

Make no mistake though, this was a GS coup against the Australian government.


34 posted on 09/15/2015 1:46:15 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Vic S; Black Agnes
The Goldman Sachs thing is, in my view, a red herring. It's come up in the US and British press simply because Americans and British have heard of Goldman Sachs, and they are unlikely to have heard of anything else that Turnbull has done. In Australia, where he has been a significant public figure since the 1980s, I doubt most people were even aware of the brief period, he was associated with Goldman Sachs.

What Turnbull is known for in Australia is primarily three things outside of his political career. The biggest of these, I would say, is that he was head of the Australian Republican Movement during their failed push towards Australia changing from a constitutional monarchy to a republic in the late 1990s - that's what really got him into politics in the first place. The second is that he started one of Australia's first successful internet companies, OzEmail, think of an Australian equivalent of 'America Online' for a rough equivalent - the goto first ISP for many people here in the mid 1990s as they first went online. His move to Goldman Sachs really came about after he sold OzEmail and they wanted somebody with a proven record of making money in Australia in charge of their Australian operations, which he did for about four years before deciding to run for Parliament. The third thing - and the only thing that really gives him any conservative/libertarian credentialism in the eyes of a lot of conservative voters is that as a young lawyer in the 1980s, he successfully defended the right to freedom of speech in the 'Spycatcher' case in Australia (for anybody who doesn't remember that far back, 'Spycatcher' was the memoirs of a British intelligence officer who had helped expose the Cambridge Spy Ring that had successfully spied for the Soviet Union on Britain and the west in the post-war Cold War era. The British government attempted to ban its publication in both the UK and Australia on fairly spurious grounds (it contained very little that could be justified as secret on the grounds of security, it was just extremely embarrassing to some powerful people).

35 posted on 09/15/2015 1:52:53 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

It’s not a red herring.

Why do you think that the Western nations are having their cultures overrun and ‘homogenized’ with 3rd worlders?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395

“EU should ‘undermine national homogeneity’ says UN migration chief”

This guy is non-executive head of gs right now. that means he runs it without being accountable to the board of directors or shareholders. he’s an NWO zampolit. Go look up the rest of his ‘achievements’. Do you think gs would have hired your new pm if he believed counter to their prevailing mindset?

You can think it’s a coinkydink that abbott was replaced with a gs wonk. time will certainly tell. but to the rest of us who have kept an eye on this stuff it looks just like a coup.

Just remember when the hundreds of thousands of ‘refugees’ begin showing up in Australia that most of you gave up your military class weapons to be safe...


36 posted on 09/15/2015 1:57:34 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: aquila48; Black Agnes
I’m not up on Aussie politics - why did they exchange this moron for Abbott?

It had nothing to do with the refugees - in fact, one of the last things Abbott had done as Prime Minister, last week was announce that Australia would take 12,000 of them. And Turnbull's policies are likely the same.

The reason Abbott was replaced was because he was electorally unpopular - since mid 2014, well over a year, the coalition government has been behind in the polls, to the extent that Labor would have won any election held in that time. Abbott had been twice challenged before, and both times had held on, largely by convincing the party room that he could turn the electoral mathematics around. He couldn't. The party hopes that with Turnbull as leader, they will win the next election - and while Turnbull is no conservative himself, a lot of conservative members of Parliament know that they'll still have more influence as part of a Turnbull government than they would if Labor took office. The bottom line is that the country cannot afford a Labor government and that was becoming almost certain.

Why was Abbott unpopular? Mostly because of a massive media and social media smear campaign from the left wing press (which is most of the press) who ignored anything positive he did, exaggerated everything negative they could find, and blatantly made things up. One example of this - two weeks ago, the Australian Border Force (which was recently formed by a merger of part of the Department of Immigration with Australian Customs) issued a clumsily worded press release that said that they were going to be checking the visa status of people in Melbourne. This is a routine thing that Immigration has done many times before - basically they do things like go through a workplace of some description and get people to show they have a right to work in Australia (basically if they are not Australian citizens, that they have a work visa). In this case, they were going to be targeting taxi drivers. Totally routine - has happened many times before - but the media immediately suggested that this was a Gestapo "Papers, please" operation directed at mass checks. It was totally untrue. Even worse, the Sydney Morning Herald and the (Melbourne) Age newspapers claimed that Tony Abbott had personally ordered this when, in fact, he hadn't even been aware that it was happening (it was a routine operation, not something the Prime Minister is consulted about). They retracted that false accusation but most people don't read retractions. In essence, the left wing media didn't like the fact we had a conservative Prime Minister and set out to destroy him by fair means or foul. And it worked. Low information voters swallowed the lies and spread them further.

To these left wingers, Turnbull is the 'acceptable' part of the Liberal Party and they've wanted him in power since the election - but only because they can't have their first choice of a a Labor government.

37 posted on 09/15/2015 2:11:47 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Black Agnes

I simply do not agree. Virtually nobody in Australia gives a flying fish about the Goldman Sachs thing because it is so utterly irrelevant. This is all about Australia’s internal politics. The Goldman Sachs thing has only come up in the international media and only because the international press knows nothing else about Turnbull that non-Australians would understand without detailed explanations. It’s a convenient thing to say in an American or British newspaper (although in Britain, they also tend to mention Spycatcher).

On economic issues, Abbott and Turnbull were almost step in step - it’s about the only thing they agreed on.


38 posted on 09/15/2015 2:16:27 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Black Agnes
Go look up the rest of his ‘achievements’.

I don't need to. I know Malcolm Turnbull quite well, and I know his career. I don't much like him, and I think it's very unfortunate for my country that he has replaced Tony Abbott as Prime Minister, but it really worries me that this obsession some people seem to have developed in the last day or so that he has a connection to Goldman Sachs is actually going to distract attention away from the real damage he has the potential to do. He'll be held in check for the near future by the deals he had to make to get the job, but if he wins the general election next year, he will shift this country to the left - not as dramatically as Labor would - but we will have same sex marriage, some sort of 'emissions trading scheme', higher taxes and less restraint on spending. And he also wants to dismantle the major safeguards that have given Australia stable government for over a century and protected us against the threat of tyranny. Those issues are the ones that matter here.

I also do not trust him on defence and national security - but on that issue, he has room to surprise me - it's more a matter that I don't know what his positions on that are, than that I know they are bad. Hopefully they are decent.

39 posted on 09/15/2015 2:26:06 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

I’m not talking about Turnbull. I’m talking about Peter Sutherland, who runs GS right now.


40 posted on 09/15/2015 2:35:45 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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