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Black Kids Get Less Pain Medication Than White Kids in ER
NBC ^ | September 14, 2015 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 09/14/2015 4:06:24 PM PDT by don-o

Black children with acute appendicitis -- a clearly painful emergency -- are less likely than white children to get painkillers in the emergency room, researchers reported Monday.

And nearly as troubling, only about half of any of the kids got painkillers, even though they're strongly recommended in cases of appendicitis, the researchers found.

"Black patients with moderate pain were less likely to receive any analgesia, and black patients with severe pain were less likely to be treated with opioids," Dr. Monika Goyal of the Children's National Health System in Washington and colleagues wrote in the Journal of the American Medical Association's JAMA Pediatrics.

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To: don-o

And now we know why nurses have to drag around those computers everywhere.

The more statistics gathered, the more “issues” to be discovered.


61 posted on 09/14/2015 5:12:40 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: don-o

“Black patients with moderate pain were less likely to receive any analgesia, and black patients with severe pain were less likely to be treated with opioids,”...”

Analgesia and Opioids, could be sisters in the projects.


62 posted on 09/14/2015 5:18:05 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: don-o

BS story.
Black kids go to ghetto hospitals. Who wants to work there?
Minority doctors who got into med school on Affirmative Action.

Black Doctors are less well qualified. Affirmative Action guarantees this.
So blacks who visit black doctors will experience worse care, less qualified medical help,

I once had a black friend in college who went to a black doctor that was a butcher. I wonder if he’s still alive...


63 posted on 09/14/2015 5:19:38 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bratch

If you think there is discrimination between blacks and whites and pain meds you ought to see the discrimination against the elderly. It’s been documented - if you are old you won’t get the pain meds that a 30 y.o. will get.

Kids and old folks, no pain meds for you!


64 posted on 09/14/2015 5:19:47 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Pontiac
Unless blacks and whites are treated differently in THE SAME HOSPITAL it is a bunch of race baiting hog wash.

I read the entire article, and I saw no indication that they studied differences within the same hospital. Therefore, the entire study is worthless.

My take on this is that the authors were too eager to trot out sophisticated data analysis techniques, and did not focus where they should have, the study design.

65 posted on 09/14/2015 5:21:24 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: don-o

I’m surprised they get any opiates as the watchdogs have gotten so overboard in monitoring these drugs. Docs are audited all the time and punished for giving too many prescriptions. Also, you don’t give much of anything until the diagnosis is confirmed. Additionally, the laporoscopic techniques are much less painful than older, open surgery.


66 posted on 09/14/2015 5:23:07 PM PDT by az wildkitten (7 years 'til I retire)
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To: mass55th

When i ruptured my patellar tendon and went to the ER, I got a nice prescription to be filled on the way home and a referral to a surgeon.


68 posted on 09/14/2015 5:29:27 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: don-o

There are several factors:

How far along are they? My daughter started showing signs early the evening before, but it got really bad in the morning. She was operated on within 90 minutes of hitting the hospital. She go no pain melds until it was confirmed to be appendicitis.

If we want the night before the pain management would have been different.

There are a lot of factors like that which need to be accounted for.


69 posted on 09/14/2015 5:33:03 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: don-o

I think most of blacks’ pain meds are used up on gsw’s from other blacks.


70 posted on 09/14/2015 5:37:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: don-o

If you read the article you would see they looked at 900,000 cases. That is a lot of cases. No real chance that the findings are not statistically significant. This means there IS a difference in the treatment and assignment of pain management.

There are plenty of possibilities of why. No kid should “suffer” through this. It’s not like the amount of meds is going to lead to addiction. Post op nowadays is pretty painless.

I find these studies interesting. The real causes are generally not the first ones people think of.


71 posted on 09/14/2015 5:42:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Pain tolerance is one possibility. Inner city ER’s that are much more guarded about handing out opiate painkillers due to past abuse is another.


72 posted on 09/14/2015 5:46:27 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: don-o

From the article: “It’s possible that black kids are less likely to say they’re in pain”

This is an important variable to consider, but there are clearly others. I haven’t seen the actual publication, so will reserve judgment until I do. The reality is that the journals love this kind of publication, because it’s sensationalistic and they know they’re going to get significant press coverage from it. There are a ton of papers out there showing differences in the way women are treated. Do people actually think that doctors are making treatment decisions based on race or gender, and withholding care on this basis? Really?


73 posted on 09/14/2015 5:48:33 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: BigBobber

“People should NEVER EVER believe these MSM propaganda pieces without going to the original study.”

Absolutely!


74 posted on 09/14/2015 5:50:56 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Pontiac

There is a paradox in (especially) social and medical study data analysis, where no difference can be seen in individual data sets, but when they are combined, apparent (but not real) differences appear. See Simpson’s Paradox.


75 posted on 09/14/2015 5:53:12 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: don-o

I work in an all pediatric hospital and also worked a few years in the ED,and from my perspective,the whites,Hispanic and Asians sit by and are pretty stoic,while the blacks scream,rant and rave and get what they want,including pain meds.
End of story.


76 posted on 09/14/2015 5:55:55 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
I haven’t seen the actual publication, so will reserve judgment until I do.

Linked in post 16

77 posted on 09/14/2015 5:58:57 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Bratch

Thank you Thank you.You are 100% right-o
I’m sick of hauling that damn computer around.
Retirement can’t come soon enough.


78 posted on 09/14/2015 6:00:50 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree with your first point.

But generally speaking, this is not oxy or Percocet. Opiads are injected into the IV. So abuse in a case of fever and obvious pain (at least what I’ve witnessed) is minimal.

I am betting that some kids tolerate pain differently or they are hesitant to ask for it. I always have had my wife advocating for my kids and me. She never had a problem tracking down a nurse to follow up on stuff.

It’s called the Squeaky Wheel” syndrome.


79 posted on 09/14/2015 6:03:41 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: don-o

I am certainly not a doctor, nurse or other type medical professional. However, I do recall reading summaries of legitimate medical studies that showed that blacks react differently to some medicines than do whites. It is possible that opiates and analgesics would be among them.


80 posted on 09/14/2015 6:12:04 PM PDT by EDINVA
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