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Egyptian Copter Fired on Tourists During Picnic, Witnesses Say
NY Times ^ | SEPT. 14, 2015 | JARED MALSIN and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 09/14/2015 10:01:52 AM PDT by McGruff

The mistaken airstrike by the Egyptian military that killed a dozen people on a Mexican tourist trip in the Western Desert hit at a picnic in the middle of the day, witnesses said Monday, raising new questions about both the extent of the error and the official explanations.

The convoy of four sport utility vehicles was about three hours southwest of Cairo on a typical tourist trip through the unearthly chalk rocks of the White Desert at around midday on Sunday when a diabetic passenger complained that she needed to eat, according to a tour-guide official, witnesses and others briefed on the events.

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Strange story.
1 posted on 09/14/2015 10:01:52 AM PDT by McGruff
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So, with the blessing of their police escort and the added security of an Apache military helicopter buzzing on the horizon, the Egyptian guide and his four drivers pulled about a mile off the road to prepare a meal.

It was then that the helicopter opened fire, killing at least a dozen people — including at least two visiting Mexicans — while wounding a tourist policeman and at least 10 others.

2 posted on 09/14/2015 10:03:23 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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Analysts say it has threatened to do new damage to Egypt’s already crippled tourist industry by raising questions about both the competence of the security forces and the prevalence of the militants they were attempting to hunt.

Does someone actually pay for analysis as insightful as this? Who knew that having a government use helicopter gunships against tourists on a picnic would be detrimental to tourism?

3 posted on 09/14/2015 10:07:46 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: McGruff

Egypt obviously has pretty strict ideas about Mexican immigrants. I just want a decent fence.


4 posted on 09/14/2015 10:09:15 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Flick Lives

Back in 1997, a tour-bus and site in Egypt got attacked...62 people dead by the end. They had a long talk afterwards, and they put all kinds of guards, and protective measures into place. Anyone who goes there....may be thrilled at the historical stuff, but there’s tons of action going on in the background and you’d be questioning your safety and security.....minute-by-minute.


5 posted on 09/14/2015 10:11:31 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: McGruff

Terrible incident and it seems some head should roll for it.

Something sure spooked the crew that did this.

As for an impact on tourism, I doubt this is likely to happen again, and plenty of tourism will continue.

This was a terrible incident, but the likelihood of it happening to another group of tourists is very low.


6 posted on 09/14/2015 10:21:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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I’m wondering if this helicopter snapped and went Jihad on these infidels.


7 posted on 09/14/2015 10:24:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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Something seems strange. I doubt it could have looked much like a terrorist group out there. Of course this is all speculation. Who knows what sort of briefing they had heard, what they might have been expecting?


8 posted on 09/14/2015 10:31:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: McGruff

Mexicans go to Egypt for a vacation...?


9 posted on 09/14/2015 10:34:40 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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Maybe they got lost on their way to Arizona. Same terrain.


10 posted on 09/14/2015 10:42:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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It does seem strange, pulling a mile off the road if the passenger needed to eat right away?

*Note also*
Slimes is one of Obama’s boot-licking lackeys, and Obama is pissed at Egypt for cracking down on his Muslim B-hood buddies ... don’t know if that’s a factor here, but it needs saying ...


11 posted on 09/14/2015 10:43:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Mexicans go to Egypt? Or, was it a Mexican tour company, of sorts. And, since the Egyptians were on a patrol specifically looking for a muslim brotherhood/ISIS outfit in the same area... maybe this is what they got— a “cover” tour group, that really wasn’t.
The original posting quoted the Tourist minister, saying they had not registered or licensed the tour plans, nor were the vehicles tagged with license plates.

Just saying. Since an ISIS unit is CONFIRMED to be in Mexico near our own TX border— remember?


12 posted on 09/14/2015 10:49:53 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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It probably seemed safer.
13 posted on 09/14/2015 10:52:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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A mile off the road does seem strange. Was there a spot there the tourist folks used to frequent? I wonder.

Yes, if there’s any water to be carried, the NYTs would be there to the rescue. No doubt...


14 posted on 09/14/2015 10:56:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: McGruff

They probably thought it was safer than the Arizona desert...


15 posted on 09/14/2015 10:59:15 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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They pulled a mile off the road in the desolate desert because a passenger needed to eat? Huh? It's surprising (assuming it wasn't an area closed off to tourists) that guides didn't have to have updated itineraries provided to military patrols.

Something's not sounding right.

16 posted on 09/14/2015 11:03:23 AM PDT by grania
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I will be interested to hear the rest of the story on this.

Like you, something seems askew here to me. It just doesn’t pass the sniff test.


17 posted on 09/14/2015 11:05:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: McGruff

It must have been the black table cloth!


18 posted on 09/14/2015 11:07:03 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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They pulled a mile off the road in the desolate desert because a passenger needed to eat?

Maybe it was an oasis.


19 posted on 09/14/2015 11:25:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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I believe the Egyptian pilot thought they were some sort of encampment of Al Queda and unilaterally fired.
20 posted on 09/14/2015 11:34:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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