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To: markomalley; Diamond
Thank-you Diamond and markomalley for your beautifully and logically reasoned responses. Up to a year ago I firmly favored mm's approach in my apologetics ministry (and still do), but in light of the rising tide of destructive subjectivism and its constant companion irrationalism marching militantly through much of the Christian Church and our socio-political culture, Diamond's response speaks strongly in terms of what is actually happening (Judges 2:10-13). It appears to me that 'right reason' is dead among much of the population, including certain theologians, jurists, political leaders, media talking heads, and intelligentsia.

Consider for example that in post-Christian paganized America, Bruce Jenner's highly publicized and celebrated path to self-realization exemplifies the evolution of man through perpetual rebirth, make-overs and rebrandings of man's fluid, ever evolving nature. Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood, America's version of the Aztecs, routinely harvest heads, livers, hearts and other body parts of aborted babies for 'scientific' research while mass man pleasers such as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell admits he's unwilling to put forward a bill to stop these heinous and depraved acts of evil because Obama, who supports what Planned Parenthood is doing, won't sign the bill. Similarly, and with respect to Kim Davis, the Christian Kentucky clerk who was ordered to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to 'self-realized' same-sex couples, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says he can see both sides in the case but that “the Supreme Court has ruled” on the issue and “it is the law of the land.” (Donald Trump on Kim Davis Case: 'The Supreme Court has Ruled,' David Sherfinski, Washington Times, Sept. 4, 2015)

Darwinism in particular and other spiritual evolutionary conceptions (i.e., Eastern oriented Teilhardism) in general are forms of subjectivism that are now deeply entrenched throughout academia, science, law, politics, certain seminaries and the minds of millions of Americans. As evolution implies continuous change it is a form of both relativism and deconstruction that on one hand serves up an anti-creation account – an inverted exegesis that reduces man in the spiritual image of the Holy Trinity to evolved ape---and with the other argues that since humanity has evolved from lesser to greater biological organisms, the same change process is in play in the area of truth, morals, natural law and biblical infallibility. Therefore, all that can be known at present – and forever – is that there is no absolute or fixed certainty. By 1951, this insanity-inducing claim had already contaminated America's Supreme Court. In "Dennis et al. vs. U.S." Chief Justice Fred A. Vinson observed:

"Nothing is more certain in modern society than the principle that there are no absolutes ....all concepts are relative." (The Conservative Intellectual Movement in America, George H. Nash, p. 37)

With respect to natural law, in John Heiders' 1985 book, "The Tao of Leadership: Leadership Strategies for a New Age," as popularized for the business community, Heider teaches executives the wisdom of 5th century B.C. Chinese nature sage Lao-Tzu. Lao's wisdom is grounded in pantheist monism, hence among the foundational natural law principles taught by Herder is this one: "I am one with everything else" and "all creation is a single whole that operates according to a single principle."

Pantheist monism means all is one, for example, World Soul, Quantum Void, Brahman or Extraterrestrial Presence. From the "one substance" emanates a divine life force (source of natural law) uniting all creation, therefore all is god.

In Dr. Peter Jones recently published book "The Other Worldview," he observes that the millennial generation is the first to be immersed from birth within a coherently anti-biblical, occult evolutionary pagan system:

"In many areas of the United States and in its educational institutions, this generation has been given a worldview based on the presuppositions of paganism and an outright rejection of God, the personal Creator. For many young people (occult pagan) voices have drowned out serious consideration of the Christian worldview, which is now vilified---as the source of all kinds of evil. Thus, traditional Western culture is under siege, and the immediate casualties are the millennials, who have unwittingly been seduced by aging progressives." (p. xvii)

How can we speak to a generation steeped in old occult paganism dressed in new clothes? Dr. Jones answer (and mine) is by a robust God-honoring cosmology and by a thorough unpacking of the meaning and essence of the pagan "lie" in order that we may then show the full extent of the Way, Truth, and Life---the only way forward. Jones comments:

"We Christians need a deep understanding of both the gospel and the pagan system around us---the system into which the gospel speaks and which it unequivocally judges so that it may fully redeem."

18 posted on 09/08/2015 2:28:53 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish; Diamond
Darwinism in particular and other spiritual evolutionary conceptions (i.e., Eastern oriented Teilhardism) in general are forms of subjectivism that are now deeply entrenched throughout academia, science, law, politics, certain seminaries and the minds of millions of Americans.

You should look into Integral Theory, as proposed by Ken Wilber, for insight into the modern "Wisdom of Men" that is infiltrating modern philosophical and, I fear, theological thought. An overview is in his book, A Theory of Everything.

I have seen this philosophy integrated into Pope Francis' Laudato Sí (see the sections on Integral Ecology). The trouble is that this flies in the face of traditional Catholic teaching and falls square in the middle of Modernism, as so eloquently defined in St Pius X's Pascendi. I wonder how much this "integral theory" has infiltrated into evangelical groups, particularly many of those Mega-churches.

19 posted on 09/08/2015 2:44:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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