Rep. Gohmert Introducing Resolution to Declare Iran Deal a Treaty

Town Hall ^ | Sep 07, 2015 | Cortney O'Brien

[Cboldt]

The resolution has no force of law, so being taken up or not, or passed or not, only tells us the sense of the House. The House can't tell the Senate what to do, and this resolution expresses a sense of what the Senate should do.

Gohmert's action is useful, maybe even powerful depending on how much news it makes, even though it lacks the force of law. It puts the issue into view.

But the venue where the action takes place is the Senate. If the senate says "this is not a treaty," that's the conclusion. I think it's a treaty. It's an international agreement negotiated by the executive, it binds both parties to certain actions. By its past actions, the Senate appears to take the position that this is not a treaty. The senate has waived its constitutional duty to provide advise and consent.

[arthurus]

I listened to Tom Cotton talking to Hannity yesterday. My erstwhile pride in the man and his action in opposing the Senate abdication of the Treaty Power is a balloon that was sadly deflated. He sounded weaselly to an extreme snd seemed to desire to take his place alongside all the other Republican weasels in the Senate. His action was apparently only an objection to a technicality and I got the impression he would not have so voted were it his vote that would decide whether the measure passed.. Based on that vote and the Hannity interview I have to say I don’t now believe there is a single man in the Senate who is not at least partially bought or blackmailed into subservience to the Sultan. That includes Cruz who voted for the Iran misdeal and for abdicating the Treaty power in the matter of the Trade deal also. I still think that Cruz would be the optimal VP to Prex Trump, hoping that that station would put him out of reach of the blackmail.

[arthurus]

why would a President put something as important as a treaty up for vote when they don’t have to?

When he doesn't have to

Using PC grammar is losing the cultural fight even as you protest against the destruction of the culture.

[Political Junkie Too]

It won't matter. Only the Senate, via advice and consent, can advise the President that this is a treaty and that they will only consent if 2/3rds of the Senators present concur.

It is nonsense that the President must submit it as a treaty. The Senate has its own power to advise that they are considering it to be a treaty.

But that would be too bold a move for McConnell.

-PJ

[Personal Responsibility]

I’m not sure what your response says. Expand?