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Family balks at Talk by Russia of moving Rachmaninoff's remains
NYT ^ | 9/6/2015 | James Barron

Posted on 09/06/2015 1:23:51 PM PDT by Borges

VALHALLA, N.Y. — It was quiet beneath the mountain laurel shrubs shielding the grave of the composer Sergei Rachmaninoff from the late-summer sun. The furor is 4,500 miles away, in Russia, its indelible voice in every melodic line he wrote — a different Russia, a different sensibility, a different life, different time.

Resolutely nationalistic Russians want his body back. His great-great-granddaughter, Susan Sophia Rachmaninoff Volkonskaya Wanamaker, says “nyet.” Or she might, if she spoke Russian, but probably not. In a conversation about where his remains belong, she repeatedly used words like “dignity” and “respect.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorktimes; putinsbuttboys; rachmaninoff; russia; sergeirachmaninoff; ukraine; valhalla; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 09/06/2015 1:23:51 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Kick Lenin out and put it in his mausoleum.


2 posted on 09/06/2015 1:25:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Borges

Moving dead people around is tacky, unless it was a temporary battlefield interment or something.


3 posted on 09/06/2015 1:26:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want to live my cat's life.)
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To: Borges

Funny.
He lies by Ayn Rand, another great Russian.
They don’t seem to want her back though.


4 posted on 09/06/2015 1:29:00 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Borges
Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini is one of my favorite Rachmaninoff pieces, especially as adapted for one of the most romantic cinema soundtracks to the film "Somewhere in Time" (perfect to play to relieve stress).
5 posted on 09/06/2015 1:29:15 PM PDT by wtd
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To: Borges

May he rest in peace and freedom.


6 posted on 09/06/2015 1:31:06 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: Tax-chick

He became an American citizen a few weeks before he died. He clearly wanted to be remembered as a Russian American.


7 posted on 09/06/2015 1:31:20 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

They better not. Keep Rachmaninoff in Vahalla, where he is buried. Vahalla is for heroes anyway and Rachmaninoff mine.


8 posted on 09/06/2015 1:31:25 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Borges

The way he was treated by “Mother Russia” no sane family member would allow this to happen.


9 posted on 09/06/2015 1:32:04 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Borges


10 posted on 09/06/2015 1:33:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: buwaya
Funny. He lies by Ayn Rand, another great Russian. They don’t seem to want her back though.

Ayn Rand is buried in Vahalla, too. Rachmaninoff was her favorite classical composer.

11 posted on 09/06/2015 1:33:26 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Borges

He wrote some beautiful piano. Concerto’s. Let him rest in peace.


12 posted on 09/06/2015 1:35:15 PM PDT by teletech
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To: Borges

Russia didn’t treat him kindly. Here’s an extract from Wikipedia:


The 1917 Russian Revolution meant the end of Russia as the composer had known it. Rachmaninoff was a member of the Russian bourgeoisie, and the Revolution led to the loss of his estate, his way of life, and his livelihood. On 22 December 1917, he left Petrograd for Helsinki with his wife and two daughters on an open sled, having only a few notebooks with sketches of his own compositions and two orchestral scores, his unfinished opera Monna Vanna and Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov’s opera The Golden Cockerel. He was 44 years old.


13 posted on 09/06/2015 1:40:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Borges

If he had wanted his remains repatriated to Russia, he would have left instructions.


14 posted on 09/06/2015 1:41:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want to live my cat's life.)
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To: Tax-chick
Moving dead people around is tacky, unless it was a temporary battlefield interment or something.

Depends, it depends on the families wishes not a country of birth. After my Mom passes I fully intend to have her and my Dad along with my Grandmother's ashes which are far away from living family to a place in one cemetery local to living family members, some may find that tacky but I like to visit my family that has passed, there are not to many of us above or below the earth.

15 posted on 09/06/2015 1:42:01 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Borges
He fled Russia early in his life.He was a US citizen when he died,having renounced any other citizenship he might have had.He died in the United States and is buried here.

That flaming psychopath Vlad Putin should stick to annexing the territory of weaker neighbors.If he thinks he can forcibly move Rachmaninoff to the USSR let him try.

16 posted on 09/06/2015 1:42:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Borges
My attempts at Rachmaninoff:

Prelude in Gflat minor

Prelude in E flat by Rachmaninoff

Prelude in C# Minor by Rachmaninoff

17 posted on 09/06/2015 1:44:36 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Borges

Obama will return him in exchange for keeping Hilary’s emails secret.


18 posted on 09/06/2015 1:48:36 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Mastador1

I see your point. Moving ashes around doesn’t seem like such a big deal to me, but digging up people ...

Still, it is in the purview of the people with the legal authority.


19 posted on 09/06/2015 1:48:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want to live my cat's life.)
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To: Borges

A Post-Soviet Russia is still reeling, and searching for it’s own soul and identity, having lived through the years of the Czars, and then the Communists, neither of which really survive well, when a free nation prospers and beckons for those subjugated.

Mssr. Rachmaninoff’s choice to become an American citizen, in the time of upheaval and overthrow of Czarist Russia, speaks volumes, for those who care to take notice.

Let the Russkies eat borscht!


20 posted on 09/06/2015 1:49:27 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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