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Conservative group trying to mount anti-Trump ad campaign (Club For Amnesty...)
Washington Post ^ | 9/4/15 | Sean Sullivan and Matea Gold

Posted on 09/05/2015 7:33:42 AM PDT by jimbo123

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To: jimbo123

I mailed back a donation request to these amnesty lovers, just this week.

$0 for their anti-Trump and amnesty push, written in large letters.


21 posted on 09/05/2015 8:29:20 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Gaffer
Seems like I’ve donated my last dollar ever to CFG.

I agree with you. It's important, though, to let them know why.

22 posted on 09/05/2015 8:40:06 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: jimbo123

The Cheap Labor Express is in an absolute panic. They are very worried we may elect someone who will shut them down.


23 posted on 09/05/2015 8:41:59 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jane Long

“I mailed back a donation request to these amnesty lovers, just this week.

$0 for their anti-Trump and amnesty push, written in large letters.”

Next time print, “Adios Amigos!” on their demand for money.

That is what I’m doing!


24 posted on 09/05/2015 8:45:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump, causes Beserk Trump Derangement Syndrome, aka, BTDS! Trump/Cruz 2016/2020! Then Cruz!)
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To: jimbo123

If this is true, then the Officials with the Club for Growth are even stupider than the average GOPe hack operative, because attacking Trump at this point is simply suicide for the Republican party, given that the latest poll shows Trump is favored by 66% of Republicans nationally, has a 59/29 favorability rating and leads with all GOP demo groups, including male, female, young, elderly, middle-class, rich, poor, conservative, moderate and liberal.

Do these fools not understand that these 66% are done with the GOP establishment sellouts who stabbed them in the back days after obtaining control of Congress, and who will NOT be voting for whatever insider sellout squish the GOPe might (DOUBTFULLY) replace Trump with?


25 posted on 09/05/2015 8:47:28 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: jimbo123
Groups in favor of amnesty aren't conservative by any stretch, an amnesty would put at risk everything a true conservative believes in.

Amnesty supporters are corporatists and greedbags trying to rig the market in spite of who it hurts, as long as its not them. Thats all.

26 posted on 09/05/2015 8:52:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: unixfox; House Atreides

“Isn’t it amazing how the liberal/socialist/Marxists groups can stick together like glue, but so called Conservative groups are splintered like a picket fence after a tornado.”

Actually, this is just another manifestation of the Trump Effect. What’s really going on is not a splintering of “conservatives”, but merely exposure of those who pretend to be conservative but are really just fronts for big money establishment campaign donors who purchase their candidates with campaign “donations”.

Trump set the national agenda with illegal immigration and other issues that the GOPe and their allies desperately wanted to avoid, and now they can’t. They were not prepared for this, and as a consequence they don’t have a clue what to do, hence their almost universal collapse into a pile of quivering jello flip-flopping like a bag of Mexican jumping beans dumped on a hot griddle.

Trump, by actually being a real man, has exposed the other candidates (Cruz excepting of course) and their allies for the weak little sniveling sellouts that they really are.


27 posted on 09/05/2015 8:54:41 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: jsanders2001

A FAUX conservative group set up by liberals. Alinsky and Soros showed them this move and boy have they run with it. You have to watch what they do not what they say to separate em out...”

Years ago I supported Club for Growth. Then I found that McCain was a big supporter and I became disinterested in them.


28 posted on 09/05/2015 8:56:55 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: jimbo123
the gopes have a big advantage in campaign and PAC money. Trump has what normally only Democrats get, free publicity from MSM because he is very high profile so they cover him a lot. and because they can't hurt him. He doesn't cringe when MSM attacks. MSM swings at his jaw as he lands one in MSM's belly.
29 posted on 09/05/2015 9:06:32 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Catsrus

You got who, whom right. Good job.


30 posted on 09/05/2015 9:07:35 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Democratic-Republican
He is actually an economic conservative. Tariffs are as old as the Republic and thus espơusing them is conservative. His commitment to the free market is questionable. I hope he learns some economics to go with his business and financial acumen. I would hope that he would read one short book: Economics in one Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. It is short and is the best primer there is on Economic reasoning.
31 posted on 09/05/2015 9:13:01 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Gaffer

CFG is NOT gope. It is a truly conservative organization and I understand their concerns. Many solid conservatives do not comprehend that the problem today is that someone on our side has to be the overwhelming winner of both the primaries and the actual legal vote in the Election. The vote fraud this cycle is going to be an order of magnitude greater than ever before. The DOJ will enforce the vote fraud by riding herd on the states. Before the election ALL of the states will be forbidden, probably by the USSC, from using any sort of voter ID at all or even asking if a prospective voter is a citizen or has already voted and DOJ will have its agents at polling places wherever there is a probable Republican majority. Then there is that mass of wetbacks who can be made citizens either by Fiat or by stadiumfuls as Clinton did it before the 96 election.


32 posted on 09/05/2015 9:21:20 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: jimbo123

They must really be concerned because now Trump is beating all the Dems in a general election matchup. I’m convinced the GOP doesn’t want to win.


33 posted on 09/05/2015 9:48:50 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: arthurus

And just how does CFG’s incomplete policy investigations (their implication) of Trump translate into this massive fraud of which you seem to be indicating will be his fault. That will happen no matter who the candidate is.

Your fears are justified but do nothing to absolve CFG of girding for war before even the first primary vote. IMO, very bad on them even though I’m for Cruz. It stinks. I won’t give them any money.


34 posted on 09/05/2015 10:10:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
CFG is neither cause nor effect of the fraud. The fraud will happen because that is the nature of the Left and will be more intense with a Republican Candidate who is perceived as able to win the legitimate vote. Trump is certainly perceivable as such a candidate. It was a rule-of-thumb from 1965 on that the Republican Presidential Candidate had to win a million vote majority of the legitimate vote in order to break even in the counted votes. That margin started to rise in Reagan's administration. Reagan was so overwhelmingly popular that it made no difference in the outcome. The margin will be far higher this time if the election is allowed to proceed with at least an appearance of some legitimacy. The Left is not going to give up power easily and they think they have it almost all.

everything can change, of course, if Hussein precipitates a nuclear attack on Iran by Israel in the next months. There is no telling what the nature of that change would be.

35 posted on 09/05/2015 10:22:37 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: House Atreides
I guess it would be too much for Club for Growth to spend their energies/funds targeting ‘RATs and RINOs?

Well, they did support Toomey against Specter and Hoffman against Scozzafava.

I always thought Stephen Moore, who was their chief for a long time, was scum because of his open borders views, but the Club has done a lot to support conservative candidates over the years.

I'll take their views with a large grain of salt, but making them establishment or elite or not based on what they think of Donald Trump isn't really a fair rap.

36 posted on 09/05/2015 10:34:56 AM PDT by x
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To: arthurus

The thread is about CFG and their coming blitz against Trump. Your predictions about fraud (however right they are) have nothing to do with it.

To me CFG is reacting instead of understanding why. That’s why I won’t give them any more money.


37 posted on 09/05/2015 11:30:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: arthurus; All
"He is actually an economic conservative. Tariffs are as old as the Republic and thus espơusing them is conservative. His commitment to the free market is questionable. I hope he learns some economics to go with his business and financial acumen. I would hope that he would read one short book: Economics in one Lesson by Henry Hazlitt. It is short and is the best primer there is on Economic reasoning."

I'm with you. Just want to point out that I wasn't making a comment really on either "Tariffs" or "Free Trade" at all, and I sure do know about the early system that was common all over the world, not just here.

My point is that groups like these have successfully created a false God to worship at the expense of America and Americans, and that is this economic conservatism. This is a devious sleight of hand and they have somehow managed to twist the public into thinking it is like the First Amendment or First Commandment of being American!

It wasn't until the robber baron era that this "Free Trade" and "Cheap Labor" and finally "Open Borders" nonsense came about, that's over a hundred years since the Founders threw off our English leash. It was in parallel to the Income Tax and Temperance/Prohibition and countless other progressive movements.

Important suggestion to everybody ... When you encounter these free trade worshippers ask them a simple question: Where exactly can I find that in our Constitution?. I'm serious, it is very effective to knock these charlatans back on their heels and position them as the Socialist-Progressives that they are. They don't care about the Constitution at all and that makes them traitors. They only care about lining their pockets at the expense of everyone else and that burden falls directly on us.

Once again, I'm not even praising one system over another. Before getting to the point of arguing on the merits we need to take back history and the language. Liars must be called out, and these b*stards at the CFG are liars or at best, deceivers.

38 posted on 09/05/2015 6:43:49 PM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican
Free Trade is not, in those words in the Constitution. It is, however, the way to real prosperity. The taxes and regulations that strangle our industry have somewhat the same effect as high tariffs would have. We cannot and could not compete in the world. American industry is the most efficient in the world and in a free trade regime will produce at the cheapest price because Americans are the most entrepreneurial and inventive people on earth. Hem in American industry with regulations and taxes and you make it no longer cheaper than that industry that employes dollar-an-hour less able workers in Indonesia. Ring the country about with high tariffs and the rest of the world reciprocates and, as with the high taxes and regulations, American business to be competitive in the world market must move off shore. Tariffs also render Americans poorer because they have to pay higher prices for imports and for domestic products because American industry does not have to compete with foreign industry and with American industry that has moved offshore.

All liberals and most conservatives cannot conceive of something happening unless the government does it or controls it or adjusts it. Protectionists cannot believe that American industry can possibly compete with foreigners unless the benevolent Government designs and maintains the market.

39 posted on 09/05/2015 8:09:15 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: Gaffer
You have a hero, Trump. Therefore, ergo, and thus anyone who questions or has some skepticism about your Hero is conspiring to do him dirt. That is the low information approach to politics. I support Trump at this point, not because he is perfect or even particularly conservative, but because I see him as the only candidate out there who can do what must be done. Whether he will do what must be done is a cause for rather less optimism.
40 posted on 09/05/2015 8:13:16 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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