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To: Catsrus

Let me repost another reply to this post of yours because after reading it again I think it deserves more than what I said before:

The case of refusing marriage licenses to gays is categorically different than all other refusals on any other grounds. Let’s take your hypothetical as an example.

A clerk cannot reasonably refuse to issue a license to a couple she may suspect are divorced from a previous marriage. Why? Because a given clerk cannot know the reason a man and woman may have been divorced before. They may have found their previous “marriage” didn’t exist by a finding of nulity via a (Catholic) Church tribunal. Or, their previous spouses may be dead.

The bottom line is that a given man and woman presenting themselves to a court for legal marriage is not necessarily immoral and a clerk cannot possibly know their previous history in order to make a “moral” judgement about whether or not they should be given another license.

This is categorically different than two men or two women presenting themselves for “marriage”. There is no way, according to God’s Law, that they can be married. For this reason, a clerk CAN make a moral judgement about whether to issue them a license.

We are a nation of laws, but ultimately our laws must be founded on (or at least not in conflict with) God’s Law or else they are meaningless. If or when they are in conflict, men of good conscience MUST take a stand, or else we have chosen a legal system that is de facto Godless. By definition immoral. In other words, worthless.

I realize (from your last post to me) that illegal immigration is your make or break issue. I do not deny that it is an important issue, but it’s important because ultimately illegals break a law (immigration law) that is not in contradiction with God’s Law. I submit for your consideration and the consideration of all who read this now, that no one issue means anything, if it does not have as its basis a man who is in submission to his Creator. A man who proposes “law” apart from God is lawless, subject to the whim of the State, society or both. So there must be consistency in every man who proposes law, consistency based on the Lawgiver, or else there is nothing but subjectivity ruling the day.

There must be a foundation upon the eternal for this country, or else make no mistake, we will reap the whirlwind.


351 posted on 09/04/2015 9:36:13 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

We are going to reap the whirlwind regardless of what Trump says or believes on this issue. In fact, in the Bible, an invasion from foreigners is a curse upon a nation. So, we are seeing that. No, we have no way of knowing why a person divorces another - it doesn’t matter really - it is just as wrong as same-sex marriage. All sins can be forgiven and that include homosexuality. In fact, Paul addresses the Corinthians with a statement that some were former homosexuals. So, regardless of the reasons for divorce and remarriage the Bible has much to say about it.


357 posted on 09/04/2015 9:42:41 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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