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To: Steve_Seattle
You must not have listened to Rush today. He said that he doesn't consider Trump to be a "conservative", but he said that these clowns like this WSJ nut and these other Republican "elites" were completely missing the point.

He said the anger of the American people goes way beyond "conservative/liberal" posturing and terminology. He correctly pointed out that these "conservatives" have not accomplished one single thing, they just talk or write about things, and do absolutely nothing.

He also pointed out how the republicans won the House in 2010, and said they needed to win the Senate in order to actually do anything, then they won the Senate in 2014, and now claim they have to win the Presidency in order to do anything. They are all-talk, worthless, do-nothings.

24 posted on 09/02/2015 3:00:05 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Heart-Rest

I am not defending fake or spineless Republican conservatives, just questioning whether we should trust Trump because he agrees with us on one issue.


29 posted on 09/02/2015 3:01:57 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Heart-Rest; hoosiermama; LucyT; Liz; SE Mom; thouworm

I caught part of Rush’s show today, and it was quite informative.

He also covered the topic of hedge fund liberals and “carried-interest.”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/09/02/what_does_your_host_think_of_trump_s_plan_to_tax_the_hedge_funders

What Does Your Host Think of Trump’s Plan to Tax the Hedge Funders?

So Trump is coming in and he wants to end what’s called “carried interest,” and he thinks that these rich hedge fund people ought to be paying the same rate as the top marginal rate that people that earn ordinary income are paying. And he has also... I don’t know how specific he’s gotten, but I think he has also included other really, really, really rich people who ought to be required to pay a higher rate. Now, I don’t know what his cutoff is.

I think I heard people that are incomes of $100 million. We’re talking about one-tenth of one-tenth of the top 1% here. But the thing about it is that the Republican Party never is in favor of tax increases on the rich. (Have I been saying “cuts”?) Tax increases is what Trump is talking about. The Republican Party never, even now... I mean, that’s the one thing amazingly they have not given away. They are steadfastly opposed to tax increases on the rich, anybody, anywhere, any time. Income tax.

They go along with other fees and so forth being raised along the way. But when it comes to the income tax and the marginal rates on income tax, they have never come out in favor of raising it on anybody. Trump is. So Clarence here thinks that he’s gonna get me in a trap ‘cause he thinks I’m a Trumpster and that he can get me on hypocrisy, ‘cause he knows that I’ve always been opposed to tax increases on anybody.

But since he thinks I’m supporting Trump, that I’m gonna bite the bullet here and come out and support Trump’s tax increases on hedge funders. The desire to raise taxes on the hedge funds, get rid of carried interest, is not an idea that originates with Trump. It’s been floating out there. You know, I’ll tell you the what really point to learn about this. I first heard about the... I’m not a hedge fund guy, so carried interest was something I had to learn about.

It’s a really screwball definition. It’s one of those things that you can’t possibly understand unless you’re in the business. You know, economists and money people have their own lexicon and they speak in that lexicon and it sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about, therefore you really aren’t allowed to participate. A lot of industries do that. They come up with their own lexicon, their own language. It’s a way of identifying who’s in and who isn’t.

Carried interest is a term that basically is a convoluted way of computing what kind of taxation there should be on activity at hedge funds. It’s a way of shielding a lot of ordinary income from top marginal tax rates. And the first people I ever heard stand up and oppose it were Democrats, which made sense to me. I mean, hedge fund people, for the most part, are the uber-wealthy. And by the way, it’s a law written by Congress, written by Democrats, written by the Ways and Means Committee with all kinds of input from lobbyists and so forth. So this is not something that just magically happened because the hedge fund guys had all this power.

This was a law. It’s written in the tax code like any other aspect of the tax code is. And it’s made to order for the Democrats to oppose. I mean, it’s made to order for their whole argument that the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, and the rich are stealing from everybody else, and yet it’s not the Democrat Party attacking carried interest. Have you noticed that? The Democrat Party, whenever they talk about raising taxes, they always exempt the hedge fund people.

The reason is, folks, contrary to what every low-information voter thinks — hell, every union member thinks. Practically half the country thinks that the Democrat Party is devoted to the little guy, that the Democrat Party is defending the little guy and the Democrat Party is out there attacking CEOs and attacking corporations and attacking all these big behemoths and they’re gonna get even with ‘em and they’re gonna take money away from ‘em because they’ve been stealing from the poor and that’s how they’ve been getting rich, everybody thinks that’s what the Democrats do.

The Democrats are not making a move on carried interest and haven’t. They’re trying to protect the hedge fund guys because most of the hedge fund guys are big Democrats, a good percentage of them are, as are a lot of the Wall Street CEOs, as are a lot of media CEOs. They’re all liberal Democrats. The Democrat Party, contrary to what everybody thinks, is not circling the wagons and defending the little guy. The Democrat Party’s in bed with Wall Street. That’s why Bernie Sanders is not going to get the Democrat Party nomination no matter what because he’s serious about implementing policies that would punish those people financially.

The Democrat Party’s in bed. They have become the party of Wall Street. The Democrat Party has become the party of the rich, and they’ve done everything they can to shield it. It’s amazing to me that of all the talk about raising taxes on those people coming from a Republican, at least in the primaries, Trump, carried interest, that’s what he’s attacking. If I know Trump, he’ll have a codicil to his tax increase, and it will be an option not to pay it.

END TRANSCRIPT

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/03/04/cnbc-explains-carried-interest.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/08/31/trump-as-tax-code-king-and-hedge-fund-slayer/

“I know it better. I’m the king of the tax code,” brags Mr. Trump. “And I’m going to come out with a plan, a simplification, a plan getting rid of some of the deductions, which are ridiculous and complicated.” Who can disagree with him that our tax system is ridiculous? Which tax specialist could stand up to Mr. Trump’s moxie and braggadocio?

Mr. Trump says his proposal will be hated by people at hedge funds but loved by “pretty much everybody else.” Trump has blasted hedge fund managers for not paying their fair share. “The hedge fund guys didn’t build this country. These are guys that shift paper around and they get lucky….They make a fortune. They pay no tax. It’s ridiculous, OK?” Trump refers to the carried interest loophole that allows private equity and hedge fund managers pay taxes at capital gain rates instead of ordinary income.


33 posted on 09/02/2015 3:09:37 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Heart-Rest

The American people have discovered there is a nest of snakes under their house, and they’re calling an exterminator immediately. They won’t be asking him for the details of his past political maneuvers, or his planned affiliations, just get rid of the snakes and NOW.


41 posted on 09/02/2015 3:19:43 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (the left has redefined the word 'racism' to mean any disagreement with any liberal about any topic)
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To: Heart-Rest; All
"and these other Republican "elites"
were completely missing the point...."


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49 posted on 09/02/2015 3:29:40 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Heart-Rest

And if they win in 2016 they’ll say they can’t do anything becuase the SCOTUS won’t back them or already has ruled like tyrants.

Bitch McConnell and John “Hic/Whine” Bonehead need to primaried or lynched. I don’t care which.


57 posted on 09/02/2015 3:34:22 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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