The others were liberal icons who lost Senate seats in 1980. I wasn't talking about their Presidential runs. They lost "safe" seats in 1980 because it was a conservative time. You helped ignite it.
Ironic that you sympathized with the old lady who was going to lose her home back then, but now lionize the crony capitalist who tried to evict an old lady from her home so he could build a parking garage. And he tried the same thing to an old farmer in Scotland. They stopped him. I wonder how many more he succeeded in destroying. I guess they were just "losers".
> “Ironic that you sympathized with the old lady who was going to lose her home back then, but now lionize the crony capitalist who tried to evict an old lady from her home so he could build a parking garage. And he tried the same thing to an old farmer in Scotland. They stopped him. I wonder how many more he succeeded in destroying. I guess they were just “losers”.”
Haven’t heard of those. Actually I’ve ‘heard’ of how Donald Trump has saved people from foreclosure, not the other way around.
I don’t believe everything I hear or even read. I look at performance. That link I gave you above about the veterans is real performance. No one can say without lying that it is untrue because it is direct and undeniable.
Please provide the stories you mentioned with links and background etc. If you’re just ‘carrying’ the story from somewhere else without really checking it out, then you need to straighten yourself up.
I will give you a true story about a New Yorker I know. He is in his 70s and is very rich. He owns one square block of Manhattan and has many apartments that he rents. He’s fairly well known and he is really a good guy, a good friend to have. He’s got the NY toughness in him that is typical but he’s got a soft side that is very helpful. In short he’s a typical downstate New Yorker. Now I talked to him on Skype about 3 years ago and he was on the phone with an apartment manager talking really aggressively, aggressive even for a New Yorker. There was one other person from Chicago on the Skype call who is also a friend of mine for many years and we heard our NY friend almost screaming in the background to remove all their belongings and put them on the street. He came back to the Skype call and apologized that he was throwing a couple out of one of his apartments because they were a day late on the rent or a day over whatever was agreed. But it seemed so harsh to me as images were conjured up of some poor couple who couldn’t afford the off-the-scale Manhattan rents, etc. I never expected to see that part of his character come out and in fact I was shocked that he could be that way. My friend from Chicago later told me that was the ‘NY way’ but I didn’t buy that so much. Later I found out that the couple he threw out were running a drug business from their apartment. That changed everything for me in the way I viewed his behavior. Add one fact and the whole picture changes. I call that getting the whole truth and context. It’s important to get all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.
As for conservatism, as a philosophy it did not win the 1980 election, it inherited the election. All those senators you posted who lost were not all facing conservative opponents. They were facing voter wrath. They were defeated because their party was bankrupt of any credibility just like today.
Is it so difficult to imagine that most of those senators you mentioned would have won had Carter and his party done better at governing? It was not conservatism that Americans were yearning for. No one sold them on conservatism because most people did not know what conservatism really meant. What they wanted was a change because Carter and the democrats had shown how awful and incompetent they were.
Conservatism as a brand did not really catch on until after Reagan was in office for a couple years. Heck even JFK was viewed as a conservative but most people then and now would not think of him in that way. Reagan made conservatism so popular that his ‘revolution’ continued into the 1990’s and 2000’s. It started waning in about 2006 when it became more widely apparent that GW Bush had gone liberal on everyone or worse had let liberals walk all over him.
Let’s just agree that we should never give strangers 100% credit on what they ‘SAY’, but rather we should look at they ‘DO’. Once they demonstrate to us that they mean what they say and say what they mean by pointing to a real track record to back up their talk, then we can give them full faith. I think that’s why a lot of us look for the genuine conservative who tells the truth because it takes the pressure off of us to have to check out everything all the time on what a person says they will do, meaning they have integrity.
Ted Cruz has so much integrity that I believe him with my eyes closed. Ted has proven himself so much to me that he could say “bing bang bung bam!” and ask me what I thought. I would respond “You got it Ted, whatever you say I’m all for it”. His credible nature just makes it so much easier for the rest of us. So far I am persuaded that Donald Trump is the same way because of what he’s done that I have actually taken the time to verify and/or have people that I trust confirm to me the facts.