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To: Democrat_media

Japan is allowing immigrants now, FYI. Partly because of their demographic crash, actually.

Also, sadly, our colleges are churning out people with degrees in STEM fields that don’t actually know some of the basics. A company I do IT work for also is a subcontractor for Bell Helicopters. They had three openings for entry level mechanical engineers. Pay was $75-80K per year in a part of the country where that’s a solid upper middle class income, so it’s not a desire to be cheap; this is also above the national mean for an entry level ME position. Part of the interview was a practical engineering problem that the candidate had to solve, designed by the people who were promoted and had created the vacancies.

Out of the first 1500 or so US applicants who met the minimum qualifications, most were recent graduates. NONE could solve the problem. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

There were 2000 in the second wave. All failed to solve the problem as well. (I was involved in setting up the test machines to make sure they were fairly and correctly configured.) The third wave I don’t have a count on but nobody in that wave passed the test either or were otherwise weeded out.

The company has now been forced to hire in H1Bs (and no, they weren’t cheaper because they *will* be paid the same, it’s company policy to avoid accusations of slave labor and for morale purposes) because they *can’t* find competent US mechanical engineers.


41 posted on 08/30/2015 11:53:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

What you say is a bunch of Lies.

The USA takes in more immigrants than all the other countries combined.There is no logical reason for the USA taking in immigrants .it’s just political scheme to bring in more democrat voters. democrats are for socialism. so you are for socialism since you are for more immigrants.

There are 330 million people in the USA .there is no need for more immigrants and since they vote for demorats/socialism it’s like bringing in nuclear bombs to explode on us .Well I’d rather die being vaporized instantly than to starve slowly as people do in socialism

plus they take away our jobs.

Also most tech jobs like programming , web site building, app building can be done remotely and many are remote jobs so there is no reason to move to the USA as they can do the job from India since they are so much smarter than Americans(sarcasm) according to you which is another lie.so you lie .

You are probably an immigrant and a communist liar


43 posted on 08/31/2015 12:01:49 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration to the USA)
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To: Spktyr
I've seen the excuse many times. Profits regardless of consequences.

New laws, policies with significant limits are needed across the board regarding immigration. Legal and illegal folks including H1B and the rest. It's the way it needs to be for now regardless of what some engineering firm in LA, or Bell wants for the right price. Those same engineering firms also hire thousands of illegals for their stoop labor through their contractors etc. The same firms bribe the politicians to get what they want. It's slow national suicide.

There are ways to put young Americans who'd really want those jobs into those jobs. I understand it's about their bottom line. I know most American and *foreign* owned biz here couldn't care less about American allegiance. Biz is about profits and bottom line.

It's a viscous cycle which makes as much sense as our government institutions, universities and colleges handing out worthless or unneeded diplomas to young Americans, while foreigners are invited in for good paying American jobs. All this while millions of others enter through federal government borders illegal taking a huge number of low tech middle class jobs. Who are the winners here?

This vicious cycle cannot be perpetuated. Like the man said, We're in big trouble. America is broken it needs to be fixed.

59 posted on 08/31/2015 1:21:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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