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To: DiogenesLamp

The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 granted citizenship to about 125,000 of 300,000 indigenous people in the United States. To put these numbers in perspective, the U.S. population at that time was less than 125 million. The indigenous people who were not included in citizenship numbers had ALREADY BECOME CITIZENS BY OTHER MEANS; entering the armed forces, giving up tribal affiliations, and assimilating into mainstream American life were the primary ways this was done.

Citizenship was granted in a piecemeal fashion before the Act, which was the first more inclusive method of granting Native American citizenship. The Act did not include citizens born before the effective date of the 1924 act, or outside of the United States as an indigenous person, however, and it was not until the Nationality Act of 1940 that all persons born on U.S. soil were citizens.


36 posted on 08/28/2015 7:52:40 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
had ALREADY BECOME CITIZENS BY OTHER MEANS;

Irrelevant to the point. None of that addresses the facts of what was the law. If you were an Indian after 1868, you weren't recognized as a citizen.

Citizenship was granted in a piecemeal fashion before the Act, which was the first more inclusive method of granting Native American citizenship. The Act did not include citizens born before the effective date of the 1924 act, or outside of the United States as an indigenous person, however, and it was not until the Nationality Act of 1940 that all persons born on U.S. soil were citizens.

Yes, very interesting tidbits of information that are wholly secondary to the point.

If the US Constitution did not grant citizenship to Indians "not taxed" then it cannot be construed to do so to foreign Indians who are "not taxed."

It demonstrates that being subject to our laws, and being subject to our jurisdiction as articulated in the 14th amendment, are not at all the same thing.

The jurisdiction referred to in the 14th amendment is a form of jurisdiction that extends beyond mere subject to our laws. It is a jurisdiction of compulsory allegiance. That is what it is.

Foreign transients do not meet this level of jurisdiction, and never did.

48 posted on 08/29/2015 11:32:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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