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Can We Trust Trump? (Vanity)
August 27, 2015 | Myself

Posted on 08/27/2015 7:39:54 PM PDT by Crucial

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To: Crucial

We got a ways to go and figure it out.


101 posted on 08/27/2015 10:31:57 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: right way right

7 long years of Obama, and he wonders if we can trust Trump???


102 posted on 08/27/2015 10:33:56 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Megyn made the debate about her petty gripe. She failed miserably. She choked, choked like a dog!)
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To: HerrBlucher

But Cruz may be playing the odds - he doesn’t think he can out-Trump Trump, but by not alienating his supporters, he may be the recepient of their support if and when Trump self destructs... and if he doesn’t being VP is not a bad stepping stone to the White House.


103 posted on 08/27/2015 10:34:58 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: JPX2011; All

How does this compare with Jeremy Bentham who inspired John Stuart Mill. Here is the quote of his major philosophical/governing principle:

“This philosophy of utilitarianism took for its “fundamental axiom”, it is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong”.[24] Bentham claimed to have borrowed this concept from the writings of Joseph Priestley,[25] although the closest that Priestley in fact came to expressing it was in the form “the good and happiness of the members, that is the majority of the members of any state, is the great standard by which every thing relating to that state must finally be determined”.[26]

The “greatest happiness principle”, or the principle of utility, forms the cornerstone of all Bentham’s thought. By “happiness”, he understood a predominance of “pleasure” over “pain”. He wrote in The Principles of Morals and Legislation:

Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do. On the one hand the standard of right and wrong, on the other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne. They govern us in all we do, in all we say, in all we think ...[27]”
This philosophy of utilitarianism took for its “fundamental axiom”, it is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong”.[24] Bentham claimed to have borrowed this concept from the writings of Joseph Priestley,[25] although the closest that Priestley in fact came to expressing it was in the form “the good and happiness of the members, that is the majority of the members of any state, is the great standard by which every thing relating to that state must finally be determined”.[26]

The “greatest happiness principle”, or the principle of utility, forms the cornerstone of all Bentham’s thought. By “happiness”, he understood a predominance of “pleasure” over “pain”. He wrote in The Principles of Morals and Legislation:

Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do. On the one hand the standard of right and wrong, on the other the chain of causes and effects, are fastened to their throne. They govern us in all we do, in all we say, in all we think ...[27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham


104 posted on 08/27/2015 10:36:33 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Crucial

Just because he has a 30 year track record being untrustworthy and changes his stances all the time doesn’t mean he’s untrustworthy does it?


105 posted on 08/27/2015 11:14:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Crucial

I don’t completely trust any of them but I trust Trump more than I trust anyone else running. He is a straight shooter, says what he means and means to do what he says.


106 posted on 08/27/2015 11:17:25 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Crucial

Of course you can. He’s a politician. /s


107 posted on 08/28/2015 12:18:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Crucial

Why bother us? Why don’t you do some research yourself and make up your own mind. You’re weak and lazy. You’re fired!


108 posted on 08/28/2015 12:38:55 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Crucial

Why bother us? Why don’t you do some research yourself and make up your own mind. You’re weak and lazy. You’re fired!


109 posted on 08/28/2015 12:39:34 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: spokeshave

He needs a haircut/trim, back-end, & pout a little less ;-)


110 posted on 08/28/2015 1:50:16 AM PDT by odds
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You nailed it! Agreed!


111 posted on 08/28/2015 2:09:05 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Crucial

I think Cruz is the only one who can be trusted; we know who and what he is. Trump’s all over the place.

If he’s the nominee, I’ll likely vote for him though because my disgust with the GOP is so strong. I really am done with the GOP. Trump would be my way of telling them: Thanks for nothing.


112 posted on 08/28/2015 2:23:23 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Crucial
No.

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Going by his past form in business and in personal life, he is mostly about the show. I don't believe he shares any conservative beliefs that we have. I don't believe he has any leftist beliefs either -- he is just about #1, fully so

That is my opinion

113 posted on 08/28/2015 2:27:54 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: LeoWindhorse

As you can see from my post above, you can see that I don’t trust Trump. But, I’m ready to listen — why do you say you trust him. Please note that I’m not going to attack, rather, I may have missed something, so am looking for your perspective.


114 posted on 08/28/2015 2:34:07 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: proust

Bush is the definition of a soft target.

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Bush has name recognition thanks to a father and brother.
Bush is the TOP PICK and really only pick of the Republican Elite and they had already planned for him to win by hook or crook before Trump even got into the game. The Republican establishment changed the rules in the Florida Primary so that WINNER TAKES ALL because they thought it was a shoo in for Bush as former two term governor.....and also backed up Bush with Rubio with an eye to the Hispanics. They will do anything to stop Trump, but so far Trump has out trumped all their high cards. So they are beginning to jump off the bridge or resort to dirty pool. The establishment is having a crise-cardiac over Trump because they cannot control him and that is the name of the game, C O N T R O L !


115 posted on 08/28/2015 2:35:33 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Seaplaner

Well, who do you trust?


116 posted on 08/28/2015 2:47:29 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Most don’t remember that hair cut very popular in the 50’s 60’s. Most remember the flat top, but not the forward brush.


117 posted on 08/28/2015 2:49:59 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Sshwarzenegger was nothing but a body builder. Trump is a real builder of buildings, businesses, futures for the thousands of people who work or worked for him. Schwartzie built his own wealth, but what did he ever do for anybody else? Personally, never could stand him.


118 posted on 08/28/2015 2:54:51 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Crucial

I trust Cruz to govern well. I trust Jeb/Rubio/Christie to keep their word on Amnesty and destroy America. I trust Hillary to continue being a power-hungry crook and a liar. As for Trump. I doubt that he can be trusted, but that’s a far better bet than the democrats and the RINOs.


119 posted on 08/28/2015 2:58:21 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: ripnbang
Cruz is still giving non-answer, answers, or answers that need parsing to understand. Trump has lead the way on telling it like it is, illegal immigration, trade deals, has the GOP and MSM befuddled and has sucked the oxygen out of the room for the rest of the candidates.

Trump is the only candidate on the Republican side in decades, that has not started out by first accepting the new normal. Trump is actually trying to move the center of gravity back a little. If he can do that, he has done this country a great service.

120 posted on 08/28/2015 3:03:01 AM PDT by southern rock
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