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To: Nero Germanicus
If we can arrest you, try you, convict you and incarcerate you, you are most definitely “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and the state wherein you reside.”

Sounds like a clever dodge around the rules for your side, but the Indian thing blows it completely out of the water. The fact that Indians were prosecuted and incarcerated while yet remaining non citizens though born here, demonstrates that your meaning of the term is not the one used in the 14th amendment.

Otherwise Indians would have been citizens prior to 1924.

56 posted on 08/27/2015 9:04:38 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Indians have/had treaty rights.
American Indians have sovereignty on tribal lands. Indians off of a reservation are “subject to the jurisdiction of” federal and state law. An exception does not make a rule.
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 gave U.S. citizenship to approximately 125,000 persons out of more than 300,000 American Indians in the U.S.
The Constitution refers to “Indians Not Taxed.” which meant reservation, tribal land-based Indians. Many non-reservation Indians had been granted state (and thus federal) citizenship prior to 1924.
One example: Greewood LeFlore was Principle Chief of the Choctaw Indian Nation and in the 1840s, LeFlore was elected Mississippi state representative and senator. He was a fixture of Mississippi high society and a personal friend of Jefferson Davis. He was elected to represent Carroll County in the state house for two terms, and elected by the legislature as a state senator, serving one term.


64 posted on 08/28/2015 10:51:08 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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