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Ted Cruz Evades Important Question: Would You Deport U.S. Citizens?
Reason.com ^
| August 26,2015
| Matt Welch
Posted on 08/26/2015 10:37:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Actually, he correctly pointed out—repeatedly to the ever-so-dense Megyn, that CONGRESS makes the laws and that as President his duty is to enforce them.
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posted on
08/26/2015 10:49:36 AM PDT
by
brothers4thID
(Be professional, be courteous, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room.)
To: Hojczyk
This issue is simple. I certainly hope that Cruz is able to articulate the simple answer. Birth-right citizenship is the de facto law. That doesn't mean that we should not deport illegal aliens under existing laws. Children must stay with their parents and should not become wards of the state. This does no strip current anchor babies of their citizenship. This also doesn't mean that we shouldn't end birth-right citizenship, that is a separate issue. It is shame that some can't keep two ideas separate in their heads at the same time. I am positive that Cruz can. He just needs to learn how to respond to crap from the media ... just like most candidates
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posted on
08/26/2015 10:53:53 AM PDT
by
ConservativeInPA
(Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
To: Hojczyk
It’s not a question, it’s a statement. There is no ‘answer’ to a statement.
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posted on
08/26/2015 10:54:48 AM PDT
by
MeganC
(The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
To: thackney
I like your thinking. Cruz should ask Megyn if it’s wrong to enforce sentences on other types of criminals who have children. Do we not send parents to jail for breaking and entering just because it’d be heartless to break up a family?
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posted on
08/26/2015 10:55:03 AM PDT
by
optiguy
(If government is the answer, it was a stupid question.)
To: Hojczyk; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...
What US citizens ???
Anchor babies ???
Theyre not US citizens..
To: nhwingut
I thought he could think on his feet. The answer that I would have is expected is “American citizens will not be deported, but the question is who, by the law, is an American citizen?”
To: optiguy
Deportation of the parents is less “heartless” than jailing parents.
We allow the parents to take their children with deportation. The government does not break up the family. Only the parents decided to do that.
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posted on
08/26/2015 10:57:23 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: Hojczyk
I wish he had said something along the lines of, “That’s not the right question, Megyn. Birthright citizenship to children of people here illegally was a mistake based on a misinterpretation of the 14th, written only in a footnote to another Supreme Court decision. I will ask Congress to clarify the 14th, as they have the power to do, and end birthright citizenship for children of people who are not in the U.S. legally. That will solve the problem.”
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:00:01 AM PDT
by
Hetty_Fauxvert
(Cruz. That's the answer. The question is obvious.)
To: Hojczyk
He did not evade it. It was a ridiculously framed question. The media think they are in charge of the whole thing. They are not. It is their job to report news, not make news.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:00:32 AM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: LachlanMinnesota
Does the intent of the drafter matter?
It matters, but by itself it is not determinative. The plain language is primary. Understanding of the people who voted for it would also play a part. Of course, who knows what SCOTUS would do with ANY of this? I believe that the plain language confers citizenship. Current law definitely confers citizenship.
I do agree with Trump that there should be a test case going to the Supreme Court. Perhaps legislation fleshing out what "subject to the juridiiction of" means would be a way to lower the threshold.
Cruz, Walker, Jindal etc. do NOT have the luxury that Trump has of speaking loosely and then clarifying later. When any of the other candidates, including John ELlis Bush, says something that can be used to portray him in a bad light rightly or wrongly, a subsequent clarification is either ignored or used to paint said person as a flip-flopper. Itis best to avoid the dangerous sound bite for that reason, unless, like Trump, you can buy or command coverage of the follow-up on your terms.
I don't blame Trump from using his strengths. I don't balme Cruz and the others for avoiding traps.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:00:43 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics)
To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Bingo. The question as stated was full of assumptions and arguable points of law.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:01:27 AM PDT
by
gov_bean_ counter
(Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
To: Hojczyk
Isn't this a non-issue?
What kind of people move and leave their children behind?
These reporters aren't thinking straight.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:02:10 AM PDT
by
donna
(Pray for Revival.)
To: thackney
The law would have to be changed to allow children to stay with all criminal parents after they have been apprehended in jails or detention facilities and I don’t see that happening.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:02:32 AM PDT
by
erlayman
To: Hojczyk
How many can you expel in a year
????You may as well ask 'how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?'
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:02:58 AM PDT
by
Quality_Not_Quantity
(Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
To: Hojczyk
I’d like to deport all naturalized Muslims and non Citizen Muslims. They are members of a cult that advocates the overthrow of America
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:03:12 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: Tennessee Nana
Us? Heartless?
That rings a bell.
Perry glowering at Americans....saying we were
“heartless” for opposing in-state tuition for illegals.
Perry flopped back then...and he flopped now.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:03:52 AM PDT
by
Liz
To: Hojczyk
“Mr. Cruz, when you host your annual Baby Seal Clubbing and Kitten Barbeque on Labory Day weekend, will you publicly state that you have stopped beating your wife?”
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:05:30 AM PDT
by
Rodamala
To: vbmoneyspender
O'Reilly asked Trump the hypothetical question of a family in East LA that had two illegal parents and two US born children. BOR asked him would he deport the parents and the children. Trump said yes. We have the Rule of Law and it applies to everyone.
Trump is correct about the minor children if their is no appointed guardian or a relative who will be responsible for the children. They can be forced to leave with the parents.
Cruz avoided answering the question.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:06:21 AM PDT
by
kabar
To: Hetty_Fauxvert
People like to quote U.S. vs. Wong Kim Ark as precedent for birthright citizenship for illegals, but from what I’ve read, it simply doesn’t apply. The guy in question, Ark, a Chinese-American citizen (by our present standards) was born to Chinese people who were not U.S. citizens but who WERE here LEGALLY. And that is a huge difference. To my knowledge, the Supreme Court has never directly ruled that a child born to people who were here ILLEGALLY is a citizen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:08:07 AM PDT
by
Hetty_Fauxvert
(Cruz. That's the answer. The question is obvious.)
To: Hojczyk
He made a bad call. Other than ideologues who would crawl over broken glass to vote for him anyway, many people watching who care about this issue will just see him as another ducking, dodging, disingenuous politician.
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posted on
08/26/2015 11:08:09 AM PDT
by
bigbob
(The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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