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Bad news: A Hillary-Biden primary fight will get ugly: White guy steps in a woman’s path
Hotair ^ | 08/26/2015 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/26/2015 6:10:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Stop snickering. The prospects of an internecine fight between Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden should have progressives worried, especially with Bernie Sanders still rising in the polls. Michael Tomasky rightly frets that a Biden entry while Hillary still remains in the race will have both sides “going for the jugular” — and in both cases, the jugulars are particularly large targets. But it’s Tomasky’s perspective on their biggest selling points that really displays how ugly this will get:

He’s going to have to run a campaign that says, sub rosa: “I’m a stronger and safer nominee because she’s corrupt.” Because that’s the only argument, is it not? He can’t out-populist her, really, even with Warren promoting him—he’s been in politics for 40 years and he’s always been a pretty conventional establishment liberal on economics. He can maybe say he has more experience, but she’s got plenty of that, and it’s not a deficiency; it would be like Tim Duncan saying I have more experience than LeBron James. Yeah, you do. So what?

Biden would have no choice but to build a run around the idea that she’s too risky. He or his surrogates will need to press the idea that the party could nominate Clinton and then next fall, Trey Gowdy finds that Holy Grail email that brings the whole thing crashing down. In other words, his candidacy is going to have to be built around what is in essence a Republican Party talking point.

And if he goes for the jugular, the Clinton team will surely respond in kind. They’re not wallflowers, those folks. They know how to fight. And they’d be fighting on behalf of the millions of Democratic women out there for whom it’s Clinton’s time. That’s her emotional rationale. But Biden has an emotional rationale, too: Beau. Where women will be protective of Hillary, Biden’s backers will be protective of him, too, because of his war hero son’s death.

Let’s recap. Hillary’s best emotional argument is that it’s her turn, and that Democratic women will get angry if she gets pushed out of a second attempt at a coronation by some old white dude. Biden’s best emotional argument for leader of the free world will be that his son recently passed away. Even if both sides refrain from attacking each other, the best campaign we can hope to see will be I Paid My Dues versus In Memory Of.

Yes, that’s a pretty ugly prospect, all right. We can call it the Ruling Class Entitlement Contest.

What seems mystifying in this essay is that there is a built-in assumption that Hillary shouldn’t be challenged within the Democratic Party nomination race, especially on her performance as Secretary of State. Well … why shouldn’t a sitting two-term VP run for the next nomination? And why shouldn’t the machinations of the SecState to evade oversight and transparency be an issue in that nomination fight? After all, it was the Obama/Biden administration’s policies that got violated by Clinton, right? Obama and by inference Biden promised The Most Transparent Administration Evah, and Hillary’s secret server tarnishes their (admittedly mostly absent) efforts to deliver on that promise. Tomasky calls concern over the exposure of classified material on an unsecured communications channel — an abuse of power from top to bottom — a “Republican talking point,” an argument that damns Democrats far more than it does Republicans, unless we just take for granted now that Democrats don’t care about national security.

Tomasky seems mostly cheering for Biden’s continued sidelining in the 2016 race in favor of the Democrats sticking with the Next In Line. Ask Republicans how that’s worked out for them over the last couple of cycles. Most will probably respond by saying the results looked …. ugly.


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KEYWORDS: 2016; biden; democrats; hillary
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1 posted on 08/26/2015 6:10:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering the two people named, ugly is inevitable.


2 posted on 08/26/2015 6:12:23 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’ll have the faux indian in tow to mitigate the Marxist-memed, war-on-women, faux outrage.


3 posted on 08/26/2015 6:14:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind

Mr. Biden, meet Mr. Foster...


4 posted on 08/26/2015 6:14:25 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And, if Biden jumps in, I bet Bernie jumps to Independent, which is going to split the Democrat vote!

Come on Uncle Joe! PLEASE throw your crooked hat into the ring! PLEASE!?!?!


5 posted on 08/26/2015 6:14:37 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Only Joe can save the “rat” party.


6 posted on 08/26/2015 6:16:37 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: SeekAndFind

How is this, in any way, “bad news”?


7 posted on 08/26/2015 6:18:05 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This^^


8 posted on 08/26/2015 6:19:54 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is excellent.

It sets up a prolonged primary battle with constant repetition that the problem with Biden is that he’s white, in particular, a “white male”.

This creates WONDERFUL visuals and memories for the general election, where a slight shift of white males away from the Democrats predicts a GOP landslide. Forget the “Hispanics”. White males are where it’s at. And Biden candidacy will promote constant, relentless attacks on white maleness.

It’s what the Democrats are. They can’t help it.

Bring it on!


9 posted on 08/26/2015 6:20:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe is not against women. He’d like to stick his tongue in the ear of every one of them.


10 posted on 08/26/2015 6:21:49 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: SeekAndFind

Bad news: A Hillary-Biden primary fight will get ugly:

But enough about Hillary’s cankles and jowls, we know she is ugly.
The good news is Biden is going to run!


11 posted on 08/26/2015 6:25:54 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Eccl 10:2

LOL You’re right.


12 posted on 08/26/2015 6:27:33 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey maybe we will get another Willie Horton ad a la Al Gore


13 posted on 08/26/2015 6:32:13 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind

Relax and get the popcorn. Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, and Reid have ensured the democrat, socialist, communist, progressive, whatever party is doomed for 20 years.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 6:44:17 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Jim Noble

“It sets up a prolonged primary battle with constant repetition that the problem with Biden is that he’s white, in particular, a “white male”.”

You can argue that a black male screwed this country up and a woman at State was corrupt and incompetent, maybe going back to a white male is the answer?

Aside from saying some really stupid things over the last 8 years, Biden as VP has earned the right to run for President. Hillary on the other hand has only earned scorn and ridicule for being the most incompetent person ever to grace the US government, and that includes Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the idiot brigade on the left.


15 posted on 08/26/2015 6:48:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (2016 - Jews for Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Once Joe Biden enters the race, the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination will become more of a sporting event than an actual fight with real-world consequences.

That’s because when Joe enters the race, the Democratic party will become so split that none of the candidates — Joe, Hillary, or Bernie — will be able to win the presidency.

But if the Hillary vs. Biden boxing match gets ugly, as is being predicted, it will be bloodier, at least metaphorically, than any sporting event we’re ever likely to see — because actual boxing matches are ended when the fighters get too weak and blood-covered to be able to meet boxing-match standards.

However, there are no standards in political fights, no referees, who can stop the action.

This will be a very interesting year.


16 posted on 08/26/2015 7:03:34 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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I could be wrong, but I have feeling that this whole talk about Biden getting in is just a deliberate attempt to divert attention away from anything regarding Hillary Clinton. The more talk about Biden/Warren etc, the less talk about Hillary. Same goes with the whole Bernie Sanders campaign.


17 posted on 08/26/2015 7:15:08 AM PDT by PizzaTheHut
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To: SeekAndFind

Gonna be beer and popcorn time soon! Go Joe!


18 posted on 08/26/2015 7:26:20 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: SeekAndFind

Got an early morning Tweet from Hillary Clinton complaining that although it was dark where she was, she couldn’t sleep. She sent a photo that was hard to make out. After some study and consulting with a mechanic, it became clear that it was the greasy underside of a 2008 model Greyhound bus!
I image a clean prison cell will soon start to look attractive to her.


19 posted on 08/26/2015 7:28:08 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the other interesting thing about all this...we hold the TRUMP card! :)


20 posted on 08/26/2015 7:33:35 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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