Mexican and Central American Illegal Immigrants Sue Texas for Birth Certificates (for anchor babies)

breitbart ^ | 24 Jul 2015 | Lana Shadwick

[dennisw]

Citizens of Mexico and several Central American nations have filed suit, claiming entitlement to birth certificates for their children born in the United States. They allege that the Texas denies them the certificates because they do not possess the required identification.

The parent plaintiffs of the 23 children claim that the State of Texas violates their children’s rights because the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that any child born on U.S. soil warrants American citizen. It also provides that they are citizens of the state where they reside. The plaintiffs and their children reside in Texas.

At issue is the form of identification that is now being required of parents by the Bureau of Vital Statistics in border communities. They claim that officials in Hidalgo, Cameron, and Starr counties deny them birth certificates lawfully theirs and their childrens’.

In the past, a form of identification called “matriculas” or “matricula consular” was accepted for issuance of the birth certificates. As the name suggests, this form of identification is procured from the consulate.

The plaintiffs claim that now they are only allowed to show their drivers licenses, or a border identification card, and visas are required with passports.

The communications spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, Chris Van Deussen, said Texas has never accepted the matriculas, the consulate form of identification. He said matriculas are not reliable because the issuer of the ID does not verify the data or documents that are shown when procuring the identification.

The state spokesman said the department must verify that parents are who they claim to be. He said the agency must not only issue birth certificates, but make sure that valid information is provided. The intent is to not facilitate identification theft or other fraud.

[Bubba_Leroy]

Now THAT is a great argument

In a sane and logical world it would be.

[Rusty0604]

They said they need it so the kids can get health insurance and register for school. As far as I know we already give the illegals those services.

[Mr Apple]

The parents complain their children are not able to obtain...

Take your moochers back to mexico -or wherever-and get government benefits there.

including health insurance

Again, take your moochers back to mexico -or wherever- and get your health insurance there.

and they cannot enroll their children into school.

The seats in our schools are for the children in our neighborhoods only and our schools are not going to provide these moochers any free lunches of corn cobs, tacos and burritos

[DiogenesLamp]

Mexican and Central American Illegal Immigrants Sue Texas for Birth Certificates (for anchor babies)

I will take this opportunity to point out that the 14th amendment specifically excludes "Indians not taxed" from getting US Citizenship.

This exclusion of Indians was changed by the passage of the 1924 Indian Citizenship act.

The point here is, the Constitution specifically allowed for the Exclusion of Indians, and it took an act of Congress to Change this.

Mexicans and Central/South Americans *ARE* Indians.

All that is required to constitutionally exclude them from citizenship is the repeal of the Indian Citizenship act of 1924. I will point out that since all Indian tribes located within the US are now US Citizens, repealing the act won't even affect American Indians, it will only affect Indians outside of our borders.

Now some of you may regard this as a silly point, but the larger point here is that all of these people we are talking about excluding were obviously excluded in the first place by the very authority of the 14th amendment.

Had the framers of the 14th contemplated an invasion from Central and South America, they would have regarded the problem as resolved by the deliberate exclusion of Indians as explicitly enumerated in the 14th amendment.

This idea has further merit. It would send the courts into paroxysms of rage, because there is no possible legal justification for overturning the explicit and strict wording of a Constitutional Amendment. The Courts would be helpless and this would make them angry.

I personally think Helpless and Angry Court's are a good thing. Those bastards have done enough damage, and it's past time for them to get smacked with the back of our hands.

As an added bonus, any judge attempting to undermine the meaning of the 14th amendment can be impeached for cause. We can smash a few liberal judges with this technique.

[DoodleDawg]

This may finally get that definitive Supreme Court decision on brithright citizenship and the 14th Amendment that everyone has been wanting.

[Savage Beast]

And they have "standing"???

[DiogenesLamp]

In a sane and logical world it would be.

You're a lawyer. So take a gander at my previous message regarding the repeal of the Indian Citizenship act of 1924, and then let's hear your opinion.

Ignore for a moment the political difficulty in repealing that act of Congress, and contemplate on the legal ramifications of what would happen if Congress actually did this.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Most law enforcement agencies consider “matricula consulate” I.D.s a joke. All you need to get one is somebody who already has one issued to them to vouch for who you claim to be and how old you are. What a circus.

[New Jersey Realist]

I hope this does get into the court system right up to the fab 9. Maybe we can once and for all stop this birthright crap.

[dennisw]

Mexicans and Central/South Americans *ARE* Indians.

These invaders are pure Indians and semi-Indians also known as Mestizos. We get Mayan illegal aliens who who speak injun languages not Spanish

[JEDI4S]

Sue them back for wrongful death and a whole host of damages they have caused.

THEN DEPORT THEM TO SYRIA......

[HiJinx]

Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

[Tammy8]

In some states, like California birth certificates are handed out like candy. In other states they still attempt to follow the law. The illegals want to sue Texas into acting like California.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[Regulator]

Predicted this long ago too.

“We can sue you to take over your country!”

Hey, Wong Kim Ark did it in 1898. Old news.

[Mr Apple]

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[Mr Apple]

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