[Jim Noble]

For the West to survive we need a leader that will do what needs to be done

And that is?

I proposed a serious war plan right here prior to Bush's address to Congress on September 16, 2001. That plan entailed raising an 80-division expeditionary force and a military alliance with India, to conquer Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Pakistan, with American military governors in Riyadh, Aden, and Islamabad after the reversion of the Punjab to India, and a fifty-year occupation paid for by oil resources reverting to their pre-1973 legal owners.

Instead, we got a Vietnam war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now that we are much weaker, please outline your war plan to "do what needs to be done".

[Eagles6]

Your plan would work. I was thinking of a WWII type scenario. The tdestruction of mecca and medina would make things easier.