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Book Club: Racism Got Us Kicked Off Wine Train
Newser ^ | 8/24/15 | Jenn Gidman

Posted on 08/24/2015 2:27:50 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Members of a book club out for a ride through California wine country say they endured a "humiliating" experience Saturday when they were kicked off the Napa Valley Wine Train, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. The women from the Sistahs on the Reading Edge club—10 of them black, one white, per the Napa Valley Register—say they were racially targeted for laughing and talking too loud. "It was humiliating," Lisa Johnson tells the Chronicle. "I'm really offended. ... I felt like it was a racist attack on us." Johnson, who posted photos on Facebook, says members of her group, all seated adjacent to each other on the 18-mile ride, may have been "rambunctious," but they weren't "obnoxious or intoxicated." In fact, she notes, several passengers befriended them—except for one woman pointed out in one of her Facebook photos, who reportedly told the group "this isn't a bar."

"No one told us of any noise ordinance," Johnson tells the Register. "If you get a group of 11 women talking and laughing, it's going to be loud." A Napa Valley Wine Train rep said in a statement that staff "received complaints from several parties in the same car and after three attempts from staff, requesting that the group keep the noise to an acceptable level, they were removed from the train and offered transportation back to the station in Napa," per the Chronicle. The #LaughingWhileBlack hashtag has emerged on Twitter to support the women, while a Yelp reviewer who says she witnessed the women being escorted off says, "I'd like to believe it wasn't a racially motivated act, but given the fact that other, non-black guests were behaving in the same way and not removed, I can only conclude that it was discrimination. This business belongs in the 'what is wrong with our country' category."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2joyful; 4napa; alcohol; cryracism; napavalley; nolaughing4you; peoplewhoannoyyou
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To: Impala64ssa

They must have been showing a movie.


21 posted on 08/24/2015 2:59:50 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: Impala64ssa

Black men who are quiet and serious and hard-working often prefer white women, who just are seldom as boisterous as black women. I’ve had to dodge black women in shopping malls, hollering and laughing. They are just having a good time, but it’s a loud, ear-splitting good time.


22 posted on 08/24/2015 2:59:51 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Vigilanteman
So it was behavior, not racism at all. Just wondering what shade of skin is required to make you exempt from rules of common courtesy after three warnings.


23 posted on 08/24/2015 3:03:21 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: glasseye
You have to be a real jerk to be thrown off that train. Whatever your *color*. Hope they have some video.

If they don't they soon will. Denny's learned the hard way.

24 posted on 08/24/2015 3:05:13 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
Should I feel bad about not giving a crap about what happens on the Napa Valley wine Train?


25 posted on 08/24/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Couples? Same-sex COUPLES?! Don't be such a narrow-minded hate-filled clusterphobe.)
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To: hosepipe

“Being “ UNGRACIOUS while black” ... seems to be very common..”

It also often is exhibited in their driving habits, and when they are crossing the street. But at least for the most part, they don’t drive around with their car radios blaring out obnoxious trumpet music like the Mexicans. At some traffic signals, I swear General Santa Ana is going to charge through on a white horse!


26 posted on 08/24/2015 3:22:17 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

True.. it’s like a CAT Taco in Mexifornia these days..

Everything in it but the Meow.. with enough hot sauce you can detect a PFFFT tho..


27 posted on 08/24/2015 3:26:23 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Impala64ssa

It is “racist” to expect black people to behave like white people. Work, pay taxes, obey laws, all racist.


28 posted on 08/24/2015 3:27:34 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Impala64ssa

They were probably also all totally drunk.


29 posted on 08/24/2015 3:38:28 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Excellence
Moslems will get on an airliner, behave obnoxiously, get themselves thrown off, then sue the airline.

3 words?

3 more

They can continue to behave obnoxiously, all the way to the ground.

After that, those ejected can attempt to bring lawsuit, provided they land on top of, or nearby to a personal injury lawyer.

Hitting personal injury lawyer's billboards doesn't count.

30 posted on 08/24/2015 3:39:04 PM PDT by BlueDragon (Select me as next Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Impala64ssa

Impossible. The wine train is way too mellow.


31 posted on 08/24/2015 3:49:31 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Impala64ssa
"If you get a group of 11 women talking and laughing, it's going to be loud."

No. Not if the women are well mannered, courteous, and considerate of other people.

I have been in groups of women, larger than 11, many times, who were not loud.

It appears to me that they were kicked off the train because they were loud and inconsiderate.

People who are obsessed with race see racism everywhere. It's the same with any obsession.

32 posted on 08/24/2015 3:51:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth." J.Goldberg)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
The 11 black women believe that boorish loud behavior should be expected of them, and that their skin color should exempt them from the rules of polite society.

Good manners is the lubricant that keeps a healthy society (or subculture) functioning smoothly and conflict free.
In California it's the invading uneducated from south of the border and a domestic subculture.

In France (I am familiar only with Paris) it is the equivalent invaders from across the Mediterranean and from other muslim countries.

After spending an hour or so this morning at our local Costco, where 80% of the customers wandering the store were Mexicans without the most rudimentary grasp of what children are presumably taught before age 10 : if you are 70 years old and moving at one fourth the speed along aisles, you probably shouldn't be using the middle of aisles that are laid out to accommodate two carts side by side.
If you have invited your entire extended family to go shopping with you, you probably shouldn't be meandering along the widest aisles side by side, stopping randomly as a unit.
You also probably should not stop as a group at the free food sample tables throughout the store. Your cute kids should not be allowed to run around loose rummaging through merchandise and running into other shoppers.

Moving on to the outdoors, crossing a street at a signalized intersection is not a useful opportunity to assert your need for "respect," by moving as slowly as possible regardless of the color of the signal.

Now imagine those same cultures actually driving a ton and a half of metal. The shoulder is NOT a lane you use for exiting, a mile before the actual exit...

The list goes on and on, and rather than insist of a minimum level of courtesy and common sense, the room temperature IQ crowd is inventing an endless litany of words to assert their special status in society : "microaggression, forbidden words, imaginary insults, sociopathological feelings of inadequacy, etc.

If violence is the solution, it is just a matter of time before they get it.

33 posted on 08/24/2015 3:57:45 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Black loud is LOUD! Once, we had Black friends over for a little pool party get together and it got late and our Black friends were the only ones lingering...we were sitting by the pool talking. We should have gone inside because it was LOUD.

The man began telling us a story about a white racist he encountered one time who called him the N word - only he said it...over and over again in a real loud voice. Suddenly the neighbor behind us yelled “hey” and the Black man in his baritone voice said “hey, back to you.” Needless to say, that neighbor never spoke with us again deciding we were dirty racists yelling out the n word.


34 posted on 08/24/2015 4:21:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: hosepipe

“True.. it’s like a CAT Taco in Mexifornia these days..

Everything in it but the Meow.. with enough hot sauce you can detect a PFFFT tho..”

And you know where I hear those radios turned up with the knobs pulled off?
Napa, CA, about a dozen blocks from the Wine Train! Napa is 50% Hispanic!


35 posted on 08/24/2015 4:47:27 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Vigilanteman

No, there was racism involved. The black women (and the white wannabe black?) decided they were above the rules of the wine tour folks and kept on ruining everyone else’s time. And they got called on it and pulled that wild card, race.


36 posted on 08/24/2015 6:21:09 PM PDT by LouAvul (Adios America. We hardly knew ye.)
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To: Impala64ssa
"If you get a group of 11 women talking and laughing, it's going to be loud."

Preaching to the choir...

37 posted on 08/24/2015 6:28:10 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (We gave GOP the majority to take care of business and they let us down. Time for Trump/Cruz)
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To: Responsibility2nd

#PinotNoirGrapesMatter


38 posted on 08/24/2015 8:42:58 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: SaraJohnson
Oh if only I were the neighbor that night...

"Hey, tell the N- to keep it down over there, my wife is trying to sleep"

39 posted on 08/24/2015 8:49:08 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: dgbrown

40 posted on 08/25/2015 5:34:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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