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Market Slump? Blame Trump
Newsmax ^ | August 24, 2015 | Ira Stoll

Posted on 08/24/2015 8:09:08 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Investors and financial journalists scrambling to find an explanation for the recent plunge in global stock markets have plenty of suspects.

Some look abroad for scapegoats: Greece or China. Others blame Janet Yellen: the Federal Reserve she chairs is at long last on the verge of raising interest rates, if only slightly.

Personally, I blame the decline in share values on Donald Trump.

On immigration, Trump has made a name for himself as the restrictionist candidate. Yet scholars describe increased immigration as an engine of economic growth.

The last time America slammed the immigration door shut, in 1929, with the implementation of President Calvin Coolidge’s great mistake, the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924, a stock market crash and the Great Depression followed.

By contrast, the Kennedy round of tariff reductions and the North American Free Trade Agreement and GATT/WTO tariff reductions helped make the 1960s and 1990s times of widespread prosperity. Trump would turn us back to protectionism.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: immigration; meltdown; slump; stockmarket; trump
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To: Hojczyk
There is more evidence to suggest that 0bama, not Trump is responsible.

Yellen, Bernake, Congress are co-conspirators.

5.56mm

41 posted on 08/24/2015 8:33:37 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hojczyk
>The guy is pretty conservative if you google him<

This man is a conservative??

How in seven hells can he think illegal immigration correlates with legal immigration patterns in the country's past?? Especially when those immigrants send billions of dollars out of the country, not to mention rack up countless dollars in unpaid healthcare??

42 posted on 08/24/2015 8:35:56 AM PDT by Darnright (When a system acts illegally, its dictates are not the law of the land, they are the law of force)
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To: Hojczyk
Why not blame Hillary Clinton? She doesn't seem to be quite the shoo-in to the White House that she was a few weeks ago.

-->Hillary Clinton Donors

Wall Street knows that she can be bought, knows exactly what her price list is, and knows that she'll do anything if they wave a big check in front of her.

With Trump or Sanders, they don't know.

43 posted on 08/24/2015 8:39:06 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: M Kehoe
There is more evidence to suggest that 0bama, not Trump is responsible.

Obama attacking coal and our electric grid with new economy killing regs could have nothing to do with it.

44 posted on 08/24/2015 8:40:23 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Hojczyk
“Why do we have a special hostility toward persons from a poor country crossing a national boundary on their way to realizing their own potential?

Whether or not uncontrolled immigration is beneficial to the economy as a whole depends on the context. In a free market capitalist economy, immigration means expanded supply of labor, which leads to increased division of labor, which leads to increased production, which leads to increased supply of goods and lower prices, which leads to higher standard of living for the average worker.

In a welfare state,unrestricted immigration leads to an increased burden on government subsidized programs, which leads to an increased burden and a genuine loss on the productive citizens already here.

45 posted on 08/24/2015 8:42:45 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Hojczyk

“Trump limiting immigration = market crash.”

- Ima Tool

But, sinking trillions of dollars worth of resources and human effort to fight the weather is surely a good thing, right?

I don’t like to do the strawman thing but each argument is equally absurd.


46 posted on 08/24/2015 8:44:47 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Hojczyk

Not a Trump backer, but blaming him for the market slump? Nah.


47 posted on 08/24/2015 8:45:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: Hojczyk
Michael Mandelbaum’s 2014 book "The Road to Global Prosperity," cites a rough estimate that lifting all global migration restrictions could double worldwide economic output.

And "lifting all global migration restrictions" is precisely what many so-called free traders and free marketers believe should happen. Of course, few will come out and say it, especially those in the game of politics.

This article is full of nonsense. And the Great Depression was largely caused by Fed policies that reduced the money supply by 30% the first two or three years after the stock market crash. It was not caused by reduced immigration and Smoot-Hawley.

48 posted on 08/24/2015 8:48:50 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Hojczyk

So, in order to be prosperous as a nation, we need to have open borders? Crazy talk.


49 posted on 08/24/2015 8:52:43 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Megyn made the debate about her petty gripe. She failed miserably. She choked, choked like a dog!)
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To: Hojczyk

The lengths these one-worlders’ will go to protect the illegal invaders is astounding.

Amazing.


50 posted on 08/24/2015 8:54:56 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Hojczyk

Haven’t heard Trump say anything about stopping legal immigration, just illegal immigration...


51 posted on 08/24/2015 9:12:02 AM PDT by wild74
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To: Hojczyk

When I first started reading this article, I thought he was being tongue-in-cheek, it was so far out in left field. No, he is being serious. It has been a few years since I read of someone actually lobbying for the dissolution of borders worldwide. Insanity. I have been reading about the coming collapse of China’s economy for at least a year.


52 posted on 08/24/2015 9:13:50 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Hojczyk
The last time America slammed the immigration door shut, in 1929, with the implementation of President Calvin Coolidge’s great mistake, the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924, a stock market crash and the Great Depression followed.

Ira Stoll is a complete dumbass.

The door actually shut in 1924, not 1929. I know that for a FACT, as I've done extensive research into my family tree - and those that left the old countries before 1924 got into the US, those who left in 1924 or later simply couldn't get in and went to Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Mexico or Argentina.

In the interim between 1924 and 1929, the economy became over-extended because of the intense optimism that led to incredible levels of borrowing based on the "boundless future." Also, the government passed the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act (as the economy started to slow and people and industry demanded relief from cheap foreign goods), which led to the stock market crash (and the market itself was incredibly over-extended by any historical norm of valuation). HOWEVER, it was not until the government dramatically raised taxes in the aftermath of the crash (to balance the budget) that the real economy (i.e. Main Street) started to hurt. The problem wasn't immigrants or lack thereof, it was an overextended world and U.S. economy.

Stoll is either a purposely ill-informed moron, or he knows EXACTLY what he is doing - which is distorting the historical record. This is why the teaching of history, including economic history, is so important, so that morons like

53 posted on 08/24/2015 9:14:45 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Hojczyk
Give me a freain break-Trump is causing stock market crash-riiiiighhhhtt( eye-rolling /s)
54 posted on 08/24/2015 9:19:09 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Hojczyk
Ira Troll strikes again!

I'll help him out:

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55 posted on 08/24/2015 9:19:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Hojczyk
The guy is pretty conservative if you google him

He's trolling.

56 posted on 08/24/2015 9:21:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: mjp

Great comparison between free market and welfare economies.
I know very little about economics, but that is apparent even to me.

Throw in that the low paying stoop labor that immigrants used to perform has been done away with.
Farmers are using better farm equipment. Factories are using more efficient production equipment and methods.
Construction has become more efficient, doing away with the old pick and shovel.

The labor market has changed.
Companies are no longer looking for the unskilled laborer of yesteryear.
I guess Harvard University hasn’t caught on to that yet.


57 posted on 08/24/2015 9:22:33 AM PDT by oldvirginian (A proud CRUZ CRAZY and VRWC member)
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To: circlecity
Not when you're a welfare state.

Hey Pelosie assured us that unemployment checks were a boon to the economy.

58 posted on 08/24/2015 9:23:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Coming into America without permission is a federal felony.

Sadly it only a misdemeanor.

59 posted on 08/24/2015 9:29:13 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: BigEdLB
Snidely Trumplash has us all tied to the railroad tracks. Only Jebly Dosomethig can save us.

Now that right there is funny, I don't care who you are.

60 posted on 08/24/2015 9:30:18 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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