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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
CSMonitor ^ | July 6 2006 | John Dillon

Posted on 08/23/2015 3:33:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

By John Dillin JULY 6, 2006

Save for later WASHINGTON — George W. Bush isn't the first Republican president to face a full-blown immigration crisis on the US-Mexican border. Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond. President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents – less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; ike; mexico
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To: EternalVigilance
Yeah. That's always the first thing people say when I point out how bad E-Verify is. But it's a non sequitur.

Your non-sequitur is a non-sequitur because they are in fact connected. Some people think red light cameras are just there to trap red light violations.

141 posted on 08/23/2015 9:27:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Carry_Okie

>> determine someone is legal?<<

The cops resume “racial profiling”. They run the plates and clear all the legit “hispanics”, enter them into a database, and then don’t bother them again.

Give them an “I support my LEOs” sticker.

“Thank you, have a nice day sir.”


142 posted on 08/23/2015 9:31:10 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: itsahoot

I want to be rid of all of the unconstitutional databases.

Just because there is one unconstitutional database is not any sort of legitimate excuse for another unconstitutional database.

That’s why I said that that particular reply, which is the most common one to my objections to E-Verify, is in fact a non-sequitur.


143 posted on 08/23/2015 9:35:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: tumblindice; sparklite2

Hey Sparky, ignore the noob.

You’re doing fine.


144 posted on 08/23/2015 9:42:13 PM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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To: ConservativeMind
When employers are found giving comfort to the enemy, you will want to try them for aiding and abetting a criminal, or for possible treason.

I don't know where you got that from anything I said.

Employers will say they had no way to confirm this “legitimate” ID was faked, because people like you took that option away.

Oh, so you want everyone to have a Federal ID too? "Your papers please." You propose a tyrannical future in store for citizens.

There are lots of ways to go about identifying illegals without need for such means, the first and most obvious of which is to post the names, images, ID, and visa expiration dates of all people entering the country legally. That alone exposes sizable fraction for the militia to apprehend. Another is for hackers to raid foreign ID databases for useful biometrics to be sold on commission to said bounty hunters (and if you don't think the Mexican government doesn't collect such data when they issue voter ID cards, I've got news for youse). Just think: this is free-market non-union law enforcement paid only for productive work without need to fund a retirement.

The founders gave us the tools we need. We just have to learn how to use them.

145 posted on 08/23/2015 9:49:35 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: IncPen

Thanks.


146 posted on 08/23/2015 10:07:27 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
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To: EternalVigilance

They have used E-verify at every job I have worked in the last 10 years.


147 posted on 08/24/2015 4:45:27 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I’m old but it doesn’t seem THAT long ago that government officials lost their job - or their hopes for jobs - if they were found to have an illegal housekeeper or landscaper.


148 posted on 08/24/2015 4:47:22 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: sparklite2

It is NOT the job/purview of ‘employers’ to do the job that D.C. was empowered.

I said it once, I’ll say it again: The EASIEST, and constitutional solution is to END the welfare state and return to a service base economy (you use hospitals/schools/services, you PAY for hospitals/schools/services). That includes ‘foreign aide’ as well.

This ONE step would solve, IMO, 90% of the illegal ‘problem’.

I too have approved the idea, from other FRiends, that once caught, all is stripped (ill gotten gains) and used to deport. Each offense after is 5 yrs. (2nd = 5, 3rd = 10, 4th = 15) hard labor


149 posted on 08/24/2015 5:43:43 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: jospehm20

Yep. By executive fiat.


150 posted on 08/24/2015 7:29:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: sparklite2
Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to seriously penalize employers hiring illegals?

Yes. That's what's generating much of this problem. Eliminate the source.

151 posted on 08/24/2015 7:36:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.)
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To: sparklite2
Yes, like put the onus on employers who hire employees with fake SSNs. Don't let them get off on ignorance. If they do it, fine them $100,000 per instance.
152 posted on 08/24/2015 8:45:18 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: EternalVigilance
The first three are unconstitutional.

Like that matters one whit. Google should be your biggest problem since they are only controlled by their own conscience which I doubt they have.

You object to the one database that could save the culture of our nation, why is that?

153 posted on 08/24/2015 8:55:17 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We need to get a memo out to Donald Trump.

More screeching by the left and sanctuary city supporters.

And screeching from Jeb.


154 posted on 08/24/2015 9:15:21 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: itsahoot
You object to the one database that could save the culture of our nation, why is that?

There's a two-fold inaccuracy in your comment. First, it infers that I don't object to the other unconstitutional databases, when I do, and have, repeatedly, right on this thread. Second, it's delusional to think that E-Verify could possibly "save the culture of our nation."

Google is not germaine to this discussion. They're not the government, and you don't have to use their intrusive, invasive service if you don't want to.

155 posted on 08/24/2015 10:08:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Second, it's delusional to think that E-Verify could possibly "save the culture of our nation."

It is a good start. I never saw a Mexican when I was growing up, do you know why?

Take your open borders attitude and shove it.

156 posted on 08/24/2015 11:17:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Yes, like put the onus on employers who hire employees with fake SSNs. Don't let them get off on ignorance. If they do it, fine them $100,000 per instance.

Going after employers who knowingly hire illegals is one step. We also need to go after any agency (state, local, or federal) that offers social services to illegals, and to deny Federal funds to "sanctuary cities."

If we make it impossible for illegals to obtain social services or to work under the table, there's no need to round anybody up, most will leave on their own accord.

157 posted on 08/24/2015 3:34:14 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
In response to some "Freepers" who raise the specter of Adolf Hitler and "thousands and thousands of SWAT members" when other Freepers say that we can deport our illegals.

Republicans who accuse supporters of border enforcement of being Nazis have sunk to a new low by adopting the politically correct thought processes and buzzwords of the Left. You saw some of the same on the Confederate Flag issues: lots of Republicans jumping up and down, trying to show liberals and the MSM how they too are on the side of politically correct justice and ready to crack down on "racism" (where "racism" means everything from honoring one's own heritage to opposing illegal immigration).

We can do it, and it's not as hard as they make it out to be

My impression is that those who say we shouldn't deport illegals (or create an environment where they'll self-deport) do so because they actually support illegal immigration and have some kind of affinity for illegals. If you heard someone say "You'll never stop all shoplifting, so let's not even bother arresting those that do get caught," you'd probably guess that the person had some kind of sympathy for shoplifting.

158 posted on 08/24/2015 3:38:38 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: itsahoot

I have no “open borders attitude” whatsoever. If I was in charge, within a month, almost nothing would move across our southern border without our permission.


159 posted on 08/24/2015 4:22:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: itsahoot
I never saw a Mexican when I was growing up, do you know why?

I do, in fact.

Eisenhower deported them. For the next couple of decades, illegal entries amounted to no more than a trickle.

However, by Reagan's time they amounted to about three million, total. His signing of the Democrat amnesty (they claimed it was for a million, which turned into three million, in exchange for enforcement provisions that were never carried out) opened the floodgates, which have been gushing daily ever since.

Now, their numbers almost certainly exceed thirty million. And that's a conservative estimate.

They're not all from south of the border either. An increasingly large number are Asians.

160 posted on 08/24/2015 4:30:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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