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To: Catsrus

Mark Levin is wrong if he thinks that the 14th Amendment says nothing on Birthright Citizenship. There is a very good case to be made that the 14th Amendment guarantees birthright citizenship to everyone born in America except for the children of foreign diplomats (and at the time it was written the Indian tribes) who are not subject to US Law -ie diplomatic immunity. The whole question depends on what the phrase “and subject to the Jurisdiction thereof” means. Most scholars believe that if someone did not have immunity from U.S. law that they were “subject to the Jurisdiction...” of the United States. So, anyone who says that its going to be easy to get rid of Birthright Citizenship without a Constitutional Amendment doesn’t know what they are talking about.


6 posted on 08/23/2015 9:39:15 AM PDT by dschapin
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To: dschapin

No, he isn’t wrong. If you read the first part of the 14th and stop there - you would think that’s what is says. But, following the comma is a clause that says no alien or foreigner . You need to read it for yourself and stop spewing untruths.


8 posted on 08/23/2015 9:43:08 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: dschapin

You should listen to his audio rewinds and read his piece on this issue. He isn’t wrong - you are misquoting what he has said.


10 posted on 08/23/2015 9:45:19 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: dschapin
From the article:
"The Supreme Court has long held that the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees those born on U.S. soil American citizenship"

What Mark Levin said is the Supreme court has never ruled that children of illegals are American citizens. So this statement is false.

He also says there's another part of the Constitution. It's article 1, section 8, clause 4. It says in plain English. "The Congress shall have power to establish a uniform rule of naturalization."

Levin says "Now, you know what that means? That means Congress, not the courts, not the president, not ICE -- it means the United States Congress has the power to regulate immigration in this regard."

15 posted on 08/23/2015 9:49:21 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: dschapin
So, anyone who says that its going to be easy to get rid of Birthright Citizenship without a Constitutional Amendment doesn’t know what they are talking about.

You won't know until Congress passes a law so it can be challenged in the courts. No one is saying it will be "easy" but it is not a slam dunk that only a Constitutional amendment can change it. There are some very legitimate arguments as to why only a law by Congress is necessary to define what is meant by citizenship.

If you really want to get informed about birthright citizenship, I suggest the following overview: Birthright Citizenship in the United States: A Global Comparison

22 posted on 08/23/2015 10:01:26 AM PDT by kabar
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