[Yosemitest]

[Charles Murray] "He's a libertarian with traditional values."

You mean he supports LEGALIZATION of RECREATIONAL DRUGS ?

You have NOT offered any answers to my questions.
You've offered only INNUENDOES.

Who did he support in 2008, ROMNEY ?
Does he support Paul (since you say he's a "Libertarian" ?

Like most people trying to straighten out the mess Congress has gotten us into, and vote for the "best person to do the job",
I neither have the time, or the inclination to go reading 2 bloviating books by someone who sits around with a bunch of other college/university snobs, discussing how smart they are.

Like Martin Morse Wooster said in one of the quotes I found while trying to figure out if Charles Murray was a PRETEND Conservative, or an out right LIBERAL lying about his conservative values:

Murray sees the American elite as morally hollow.
The upper class does many things well (including having strong and lasting marriages)
but is unwilling and possibly unable to defend the virtues that lead to its success.
“The signs that America’s new upper class has suffered a crisis of self-confidence are hard to ignore,” he writes.
By being separate from the rest of the nation, this class fails to set an example of good behavior that is necessary for everyone to follow in order to succeed.
The elite colleges are implicitly part of that problem.

Intellectuals are known for overthinking problems.
I have a nagging suspicion that Murray may have done exactly that in his argument
that elite colleges are complicit in America’s “coming apart.”
Is it really something new
that the brightest young men and women tend to marry and have very bright children
and that the upper classes don’t mingle much with the rest of society?

Whatever the answers to those questions, Murray offers no specific solutions, including changes in the role of colleges.
Should those schools change admissions policies?
He doesn’t say.
Should the elite individuals change their lives?
All he says is that they should “think about ways to change.”
Here, Murray’s long-established cultural pessimism shows through
we’re facing a problem and there isn’t any clear solution to it.
I hope it’s not as bad as he claims.

But NONE OF THIS answers my questions !

[rmlew]

Read Murray’s earlier works. He wants an elite to lead the nation in traditional values. So do I. Heck, the Founding Fathers expected this.