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Paul Krugman "What Ails The World Right Now Is That Governments Aren’t Deep Enough In Debt"
Zero Hedge ^ | 08/22/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/22/2015 11:37:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This was written by a Nobel prize winning economist without a trace or sarcasm, irony or humor. It is excerpted, and presented without commentary.

From the New York Times:

Debt Is Good

... the point simply that public debt isn’t as bad as legend has it? Or can government debt actually be a good thing?

Believe it or not, many economists argue that the economy needs a sufficient amount of public debt out there to function well. And how much is sufficient? Maybe more than we currently have. That is, there’s a reasonable argument to be made that part of what ails the world economy right now is that governments aren’t deep enough in debt.

I know that may sound crazy. After all, we’ve spent much of the past five or six years in a state of fiscal panic, with all the Very Serious People declaring that we must slash deficits and reduce debt now now now or we’ll turn into Greece, Greece I tell you.

But the power of the deficit scolds was always a triumph of ideology over evidence, and a growing number of genuinely serious people — most recently Narayana Kocherlakota, the departing president of the Minneapolis Fed — are making the case that we need more, not less, government debt.

Why?

One answer is that issuing debt is a way to pay for useful things, and we should do more of that when the price is right. The United States suffers from obvious deficiencies in roads, rails, water systems and more; meanwhile, the federal government can borrow at historically low interest rates. So this is a very good time to be borrowing and investing in the future, and a very bad time for what has actually happened: an unprecedented decline in public construction spending adjusted for population growth and inflation.

Beyond that, those very low interest rates are telling us something about what markets want. I’ve already mentioned that having at least some government debt outstanding helps the economy function better. How so? The answer, according to M.I.T.’s Ricardo Caballero and others, is that the debt of stable, reliable governments provides “safe assets” that help investors manage risks, make transactions easier and avoid a destructive scramble for cash.

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[L]ow interest rates, Mr. Kocherlakota declares, are a problem. When interest rates on government debt are very low even when the economy is strong, there’s not much room to cut them when the economy is weak, making it much harder to fight recessions.  There may also be consequences for financial stability: Very low returns on safe assets may push investors into too much risk-taking — or for that matter encourage another round of destructive Wall Street hocus-pocus.

What can be done? Simply raising interest rates, as some financial types keep demanding (with an eye on their own bottom lines), would undermine our still-fragile recovery. What we need are policies that would permit higher rates in good times without causing a slump. And one such policy, Mr. Kocherlakota argues, would be targeting a higher level of debt.

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Now, in principle the private sector can also create safe assets, such as deposits in banks that are universally perceived as sound....

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At this point we stopped reading.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; economy; government; paulkrugman
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To: FreedomPoster
If debt is so good, why are Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal having such a tough time?

Obviously they did not borrow enough.

The solution is always borrow and spend more. If that doesn't work, then borrow and spend some more. Repeat as necessary.

41 posted on 08/22/2015 12:59:39 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: GeronL

Not really a smart man at all. Cut from the same flimsy Nobel cloth as Obama and Gore.


42 posted on 08/22/2015 1:02:14 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: SeekAndFind

Debt is a sensible tool for taking advantage of opportunities - when handled wisely. Have a plan for paying it off, for identifying and making proper use of the savings, and a contingency plan for the possibility of circumstances going pear-shaped.

Unfortunately, for most people - from young adults to governments - debt is the unconsidered consequence of swiping the credit card for immediate satisfaction.

When your government retirement plan (SS) starts including the footnote “not all planned payments may be available at time of payout”, the problem isn’t too much or too little debt, it’s not having a damn clue what to do about it.


43 posted on 08/22/2015 1:09:53 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: freespirit2012
Krugman is the dumbest person alive..

The word is he could have Asperger's syndrome. It's not uncommon among Economics professors. It makes figuring out how smart he is difficult. Those with Asperger's can be very bright, but their minds don't work the same way other people's do and don't give results one can rely on.

44 posted on 08/22/2015 1:16:41 PM PDT by x
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To: headstamp 2
Your sister needs to honestly think about getting out while the getting is good.

Sister-in-law. She did, a few times.

45 posted on 08/22/2015 1:19:23 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember reading about an election at the end of the 1800’s and the big deal was that the Federal Government had to much money and wasn’t spending enough and some were afraid that it would wined up with all the money. The progressives who came to power right after that seem to have excelled at solving that problem.


46 posted on 08/22/2015 1:28:53 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SeekAndFind

And what happens to all this debt when interest rates return to something more typical, say 5%?

The interest alone will consume more than all of the profits generated by the U.S. economy.


47 posted on 08/22/2015 1:52:51 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: x

The word is he could have Asperger’s syndrome.

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The only syndrome Krugman has is cranial-rectal inversion syndrome.

He’s a typical liberal idiot, in that his declared viewpoints have absolutely nothing to do with empirical reality.

Nobel prizes in politicized subjects are jokes, in that the people awarding them have the same syndrome as Krugman.

I personally hope that if the future economic situation that Krugman wants actually come to pass, he gets literally eaten by a crowd of his victims.


48 posted on 08/22/2015 1:57:05 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman

Tell that to Greece


49 posted on 08/22/2015 2:52:06 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Looks like she needs a little help too.

Your BIL plays on that.

Hope things turn out well.


50 posted on 08/22/2015 3:20:21 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: x

Asperger’s makes sense..


51 posted on 08/22/2015 3:27:25 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: SeekAndFind

Fire Chief Paul Krugman: “Ok, boys, we need to get this fire under control. Blake, Tommy, you man the gasoline hoses, and soak this blaze good! Mike and Grant, you chuck more logs on it. Terry, you tell the helicoptor to dump loads of newspaper on it.”


52 posted on 08/22/2015 3:30:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I had someone in Recovery tell me, "I don't have a drug problem. What I have is a running-out problem."

Made sense when said in an effort to seek recovery.

53 posted on 08/22/2015 3:31:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: scooby321

Is Greece not suffering under the same delusion that Krugman is pushing? What part of what I said was wrong?


54 posted on 08/22/2015 6:20:54 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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