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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump seems to be more or less explicit with respect to his intentions about deporting aliens depending on several factors.

It is quite clear that illegals coming over the wall should be detained and deported. Of course, the southern border is only 60% of the problem with 40% of the illegals in America being visa jumpers. Here Trump is slightly less explicit. He wants punishment but he does not explicitly state that visa jumpers should be chased down and deported. Although, it is reasonable to infer that punishment must necessarily include deportation. Will he chase them down, punish them and deport them?

It is quite clear that aliens in our midst who commit crimes should be deported. That is an easy political step to take and the doing away with sanctuary cities is a necessary step toward that end. The provisions against gangs and criminals provides a certain amount of cover against the political opposition in favor of sanctuary cities which is not inconsiderable.

With upwards of 30 million or perhaps 40 million illegal aliens in America it is politically impossible to sell a program which envisions "kicking down doors" and forcibly deporting tens of millions of people. The left will instantly raise images of boxcars on their way to Auschwitz. So how do you get rid of all of these otherwise law-abiding illegals? Romney said it but was clobbered for saying it: let them self deport. Self deportation is the only viable answer but it must be politically palatable.

There are only two reasons for them to stay in America, welfare benefits and/or employment. Obviously, to get them to self deport one must remove both of those props. To Trump's credit he wants to take away benefits from illegals but of course that runs into trouble with several Supreme Court decisions as well as Congress.

But Trump is not explicit with respect to ending employment. Is he guarding himself from attacks from the left? He mentions e-verify but ambiguously:

"Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans." (Emphasis supplied)

But what does this mean? E-verify as a system is spotty and its application in some states it has been rendered inoperative if not illegal, and not well enforced. Does "nationwide" mean that it will be applied to every state? To all private employers? Clearly, unless the incentive of employment is removed ICE will be hopelessly reduced to shoveling flies, overwhelmed by numbers, backlogged in the courts, ultimately swamped by birthright citizenship coupled with chain migration.

My point is is just the opposite of this article. I question whether conservatives should have faith that Trump will actually deport illegal aliens who are not criminals and who are not, coming over the wall? Will he deport visa jumpers? Will he chase them down? Will he make e-verify ubiquitous and impose sanctions on employers? Why has he not been explicit?


5 posted on 08/19/2015 2:42:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
My point is is just the opposite of this article. I question whether conservatives should have faith that Trump will actually deport illegal aliens who are not criminals and who are not, coming over the wall? Will he deport visa jumpers? Will he chase them down? Will he make e-verify ubiquitous and impose sanctions on employers? Why has he not been explicit?

I think you are correct.

Some on both the left and right think Trump will be deporting the non criminals en masse, which is not the case.

To me it looks like a self "deportation" plan.

12 posted on 08/19/2015 5:46:10 AM PDT by FreeReign
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