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Carly Fiorina: "Always the parent's choice" to vaccinate kids
CBS News ^ | 8/14/2015 | Reena Flores

Posted on 08/14/2015 7:46:15 AM PDT by Bluewater2015

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To: Vendome

Agreed. They are potential carries of diseases. Some of the disease are pretty serious and might infect people with lowered or compromised immune systems — the very young, very old, etc.

It is a “choice” to not vaccinate and that choice might cause harm to others.


41 posted on 08/14/2015 8:21:58 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Tired of Taxes

Eugenics. Culling the herd. Those who die were unfit.


42 posted on 08/14/2015 8:22:09 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Believing in the rights of parents to make an educated choice for their children rather than being coerced by the gods of medicine is hardly controversial. In fact, it is American.

That is an easy argument to make now that Polio and the like have been contained. In 1965, I would not have wanted my children in school with those who were not vaccinated.

43 posted on 08/14/2015 8:25:01 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Leaning Right
It is fine that you make the educated choice to vaccinate your children. No one faults you for doing what you feel is right for your children. No problem.

However, your logic does not extend to those who make the educated choice NOT to vaccinate. So you do not favor freedom, but rather government coercion to keep these children isolated, even though they have no illnesses. Besides, what does your child have to worry about being "vaccinated"?
44 posted on 08/14/2015 8:25:47 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Freepers want freedom..... For me and not for thee.

Maybe some of you haven’t raised a child who got the 30 odd vaccines on time but was brain damaged.

Anyone who only wants freedom for their kind isn’t about freedom. Anyone who wants to force others to get injections of primitive concoctions - or anything - is selfish and only wants freedom for himself.


45 posted on 08/14/2015 8:26:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: 4rcane; Bluewater2015; grania
she’s engaging in politician double speak

Maybe, but I will take a more classical liberal point of view. I am tired of people making decisions and forcing me to go along. I would think you would not have an issue if a private school required vaccinations. The rub here is that we are talking about barring non-vaccinated kids from public schools which seems to be double speak because the government has forcefully monopolized education and most people have little choice but public school. Unfortunately, this is the society we live in, we have given up a lot of liberty for comfort and we now have neither.

I am not troubled by Carly because if more politician spoke the the truth (gov't can tell you what to do if they pay for it) then maybe people will be less willing to surrender their liberty.

46 posted on 08/14/2015 8:27:06 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: Bluewater2015
Carly Fiorina: "Always the parent's choice" to vaccinate kids

.....Carly > Perry

LOL.

47 posted on 08/14/2015 8:29:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RIghtwardHo

Funny that we have this discussion while simultaneously moaning about immigrants bringing in once eradicated diseases.


48 posted on 08/14/2015 8:30:57 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: JohnnyM
schools have the freedom

One problem that. Government does not have a right to freedom. Government protects freedom. If private schools want set vaccination standards, that is fine. I can choose to spend money on a private school or not. On the other hand, I am forced to pay for public schools under threat of property confiscation, fines and jail time. BTW, I am not against vaccinations, my children have always had their shots. I am against sloppy thinking like Carly's. She should be talking about real issues like getting government out of the education and shuttering the department of education. She is a weak minded feminist, and big government RINO.

49 posted on 08/14/2015 8:31:01 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: Vendome

Those who don’t trust the vaccine industry aren’t likely to trust government schools either, so that’s hardly a disincentive.


50 posted on 08/14/2015 8:32:35 AM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: Bluewater2015

Yep, how dare a Republican think that the masses can make choices. Don’t they know the whole point of government is to run our lives in detail and make all the decisions for us? /sarc


51 posted on 08/14/2015 8:33:58 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Poison Pill

So if Salk would not have created the vaccine, we would all be dead?


52 posted on 08/14/2015 8:36:08 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Bluewater2015

Fiorina is an idiot. At best here she is just pandering, at worst she is seriously clueless.


53 posted on 08/14/2015 8:39:05 AM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Bluewater2015

54 posted on 08/14/2015 8:40:28 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: 4rcane
she’s engaging in politician double speak

That's all she ever does. Like when she denounced the idea of global warming to Katie Couric -- a mere 6 years after she endorsed carbon taxes.

55 posted on 08/14/2015 8:42:03 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
So if Salk would not have created the vaccine, we would all be dead?

No Jan, but many would be dead and some of us would be in Iron Lungs or wheel chairs. Should Salk just not have bothered?

56 posted on 08/14/2015 8:43:25 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Bluewater2015
She should check the cemeteries before these vaccines came out.

And she should have been around when I was "forced" to get the polio vaccine....and see my bro's friend walk with braces on her legs cuz the vaccine was too late for her.

57 posted on 08/14/2015 8:43:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: riverdawg

“Ask your doctor or other health professionals you know if their children are (or were) vaccinated. I predict that everyone of them will answer affirmatively.”

I’ll take that bet. You’re wrong. I can use the money.

15 years ago I’d have agreed. I now know 15 MD’s who either don’t vax the whole schedule or don’t vax the whole schedule AND do delayed shots.

One of whom (former doc my own kids saw) homeschooled his EIGHT children because the 2nd one had a seizure on the table in the peds office while his wife was dressing him post 2nd month shots. The fireworks ensued when the ped nurse tried to tell him (he was in ped residency at the time, he’s a ped specialist) that the ‘baby is just stretching, they do that sometimes after their shots’. No more shots for any of his kids after that. UNsurprisingly the kid who had the seizures got an autism diagnosis.

This former ped specialist (he’s retired) only officially announced WHY he’d homeschooled his kids about 6m ago when the youngest turned 18. He didn’t want to be a target of CPS or a vindictive medical board.


58 posted on 08/14/2015 8:45:34 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bluewater2015

With the massive influx of illegal alien children, these vaccinations should be mandatory. It is a public health issue.


59 posted on 08/14/2015 8:46:00 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Sacajaweau

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=768249#

It should be easy to find the decrease in childhood mortality in the mid/late 1950’s due to the polio vaccine. Ditto the mid/late 1960’s due to the measles vaccine. Scroll for the chart in question.

BTW, that polio vaccine you got was loaded with SV-40. Linked with cancer. Any of your childhood friends get lymphoma or other soft tissue cancers since then?


60 posted on 08/14/2015 8:48:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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