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To: mlizzy

It is a lie that fetal tissues are “necessary” for research breakthroughs. They are not necessary for *any* kind of research. A scientist can spend a whole career productively without EVER using fetal tissues.

The article is disingenuous in claiming that fetal cells have been essential for developing vaccines and so forth. The cells used for those vaccines are cell lines—yes, they were established from the tissues of murdered babies, but cell lines are essentially immortal. No further babies have to be killed to maintain those cells. (Unless you count the fetal calves which are necessary to feed the cells.) Many researchers use other cells to develop vaccines—dog cells, cells from non-murdered people, etc.

One other thing is the claim about stem cells. An embryo’s cells receive a LOT of signals, telling them how to grow. When the cells are removed from that highly controlled environment, they grow uncontrollably. This is why attempts to use embryonic stem cells can result in tumors. Another aspect of the stem cells is that the younger the embryo they are removed from, the less like the mature tissue they are. So it takes a lot more manipulation to induce those cells to differentiate into the mature tissue, and we know almost nothing about the exact steps required. On the other hand, stem cells extracted from the patient are already partially differentiated into the mature tissue, and only need a little manipulation to mature. Plus, a patient’s stem cells cause no rejection problems as stem cells from an embryo would.

One other thing: for researchers who absolutely must research fetuses, there are plenty of fetuses that die naturally and are available for research. Also, they can do the research in animals—which is how *most* embryologists do their research. In fact, a LOT of embryonic development isn’t even done in vertebrates—it’s done in fruit flies and worms. So there is absolutely no moral problem with their research at all.

Speaking as a researcher, I am appalled that the scientific profession is being made to look so ghoulish by the ilk of those abortion promoters.


36 posted on 08/11/2015 7:30:53 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Do you really believe that the scientific community can use over a million aborted babies a year? That’s the number - add up the labs in the country doing this type of research then remember they’re splitting up over a million babies a year. It doesn’t add up...


40 posted on 08/11/2015 7:55:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (Research facilities aren't useing a million aborted babies a year. Where's the rest ?)
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To: exDemMom
The cells used for those vaccines are cell lines—yes, they were established from the tissues of murdered babies, but cell lines are essentially immortal. No further babies have to be killed to maintain those cells.

How do we even know that certain cell lines purportedly used for 'those' vaccines were established from the tissue of murdered babies, as opposed to cells of pre-natal children who died from natural causes?

Cordially,

51 posted on 08/12/2015 5:41:08 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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