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Islam Needs Luther, Calvin
MEMRI ^ | 13/7/15 | Turki AlHamad

Posted on 08/11/2015 12:24:00 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: Jack Hydrazine

They would probably just use it to justify more anti-Semitism, as the Gospels have been used in the past, though not much lately.


21 posted on 08/11/2015 5:29:40 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Jihad is the core tenant and if you remove it you don’t have Islam anymore.”

And that’s a bad thing because...?


22 posted on 08/11/2015 5:31:12 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The problem you run into is that if you take jihad out of the Koran then the rest of it collapses.

Better to just write a completely new Koran and Hadith.


23 posted on 08/11/2015 5:37:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Eleutheria5

The reformation of Islam has already occurred.

The Isis and Saudi Immams are actually an attempt at counter reformation. They insist on returning to a purity that has been gone for decades, even generations.

Islam has evolved with the times. What is demanded is to cease and reverse the evolution and moderninaty.

The President of Egypt has called for an end of the counter reformation. He and those in the vast majority will prevail over those that are trying their damndest to return to a state hyped up purity


24 posted on 08/11/2015 5:45:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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To: Eleutheria5

A “Luther” wouldn’t do a lick of good for Islam.

Martin Luther split with “the church” because they were acting of their own extra-biblical authority,
CONTRARY TO Scripture.

The Muslims who are termed “radical” today are in fact the “Luthers” - acting IN ACCORDANCE with their scripture.


25 posted on 08/11/2015 5:49:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I am attempting to do it one person at a time. I know I am not the only Christian in this endeavor.


26 posted on 08/11/2015 11:02:20 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I forgot to add that yes, it would indeed take a miracle. It would take a complete change of heart, a rebirth, you might say.


27 posted on 08/11/2015 11:04:21 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Jemian

Glad to hear that!


28 posted on 08/11/2015 12:22:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Kennedy or Clinton.


29 posted on 08/11/2015 1:36:58 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And that’s a bad thing because...?


30 posted on 08/11/2015 3:58:09 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Probably the best post this thread will see.


31 posted on 08/11/2015 4:00:09 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They already believe that Jesus was a prophet, but reject the notion that G-d sired him. Jews reject both. The only reason Christians and Jews lately get along better than either group does with Muslims is a slow evolutionary process that took place over the past five hundred years, and included the Reformation.

But the Muslims’ problem isn’t that they reject the teachings of Jesus, but that they are utterly ignorant of them and probably think such things as turning the other cheek and loving one’s enemies are the most outrageous blasphemies, and if you ascribed them to anyone whom Muslims accept as a prophet, they would swear that it is a Satanic forgery.

They have a mid-evil mindset, which involves closed circuit logic. We are good. The Qoran is true. Anyone who disagrees with anything in it is an enemy of truth and goodness. Therefore shut your ears and kill them. There was a time when Christiandom was similarly afflicted, but the Reformation and other major evolutionary events slowly broadened perspectives.

It helped that Christian texts, while often interpreted in a similarly medieval manner, did not blatantly spell out a doctrine of outright hatred and bloodshed. Islam does. ISIS and the Ayatollahs see themselves as the true reformers, and this makes the whole religion as near hopeless as anything can be.


32 posted on 08/11/2015 4:15:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Dick Vomer

If not them, then Obama.


33 posted on 08/11/2015 11:14:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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