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The Federal Government Says Being Homeless Should Not Be A Crime (Right to Sleep in Public Places)
Huffington Post ^ | August 6, 2015 | Ryan J. Reilly

Posted on 08/07/2015 1:49:02 PM PDT by C19fan

Laws that make it a crime for homeless people to sleep in public places even when there isn't enough room for them at a shelter unconstitutionally punish the homeless, lawyers for the Obama administration said in a court filing on Thursday.

The federal government took this position against so-called anti-camping laws in an ongoing case against the city of Boise, Idaho, which has enforced ordinances banning sleeping in public spaces and ended up convicting homeless plaintiffs.

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To: Norm Lenhart

When the liberals out of power, jobs will return and the homeless can return to work stripped from them by liberals.

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I think of the thousands upon thousands of jobs lost in the mining industry and that’s just one industry. All because the mongrel in the white hut doesn’t like coal.

Will those jobs come back with a new administration? I certainly hope so.........................Good paying jobs too.


21 posted on 08/07/2015 2:29:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: NY Attitude

Indeed, I have seen it increasing a lot lately. Now there are at least a half dozen men camping in the park near me every night.

Last year, there was only one, maybe two. Before that, none. So it’s getting worse.


22 posted on 08/07/2015 2:30:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C19fan

The White House lawn or the Oval Office?


23 posted on 08/07/2015 2:33:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Well, if there aren’t any other accommodations available to them, then it effectively is. Man has a biological need to “loiter” somewhere about a third of each day. That’s not something we can just choose not to do.


24 posted on 08/07/2015 2:34:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Have you ever seen the amount of garbage, feces or pools of urine that they leave in public places that they assemble in? To say the least, it becomes a health hazard to the community, costs tax payer dollars to clean and disinfect the area, not only to say that it creates an eyesore for those cities and such that depend upon tourist dollars for survival.


25 posted on 08/07/2015 2:34:52 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Boogieman

Watta bout sleeping in your tinted window SUV?


26 posted on 08/07/2015 2:34:55 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Graybeard58

Those jobs return the day that a new president abolishes the EPA.


27 posted on 08/07/2015 2:34:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NY Attitude

Sure, but that is a separate issue, at least legally. Not everyone sleeping a park is crapping there and littering. So that isn’t an argument against whether someone has a right to sleep in a public place.

It’s a practical issue, yes, but practical issues don’t trump rights. So if this is a natural rights issue, and I think it is, you can’t take the right away just by saying some people who exercise that right don’t do it responsibly.


28 posted on 08/07/2015 2:40:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NY Attitude

At one time we had vagrancy laws. If you weren’t gainfully employed or had legitimate business to conduct or were invited to stay with a friend or relative in a jurisdiction, you were run out of town. This was well before liberalism trumped common sense.


29 posted on 08/07/2015 2:44:13 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: C19fan

That topic will be more interesting toward the end of the default process, when the presently more equal animals trade places with them.


30 posted on 08/07/2015 2:45:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"When the liberals out of power, jobs will return and the homeless can return to work stripped from them by liberals."

Rural planning, zoning and building offices should be de-funded and closed first then.


31 posted on 08/07/2015 2:55:39 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

Everything created and run by liberals should meet that fate. And most rural planning crap is exactly that.

I come from the Adirondacks in New York originally. What the Adirondack Park Agency did to that place should be a war crime.


32 posted on 08/07/2015 3:05:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: GreyFriar

Inside the fence that surrounds the White House and Vice President’s house. Might want to consider the front lawns of the Dept of Just-Us lawyers also!!!


33 posted on 08/07/2015 3:17:45 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The cunning Venezuelan gov't has eliminated the toilet paper shortage by creating a food shortage.)
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To: fruser1

Exactly.


34 posted on 08/07/2015 3:48:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: NY Attitude

Even though there are shelters and such, the amount of street people is incredible.

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That is because most of these unfortunate people are incapable of making decisions in their own best interest. Not putting them inside facilities where they could be cared for is the cruelest policy of all, IMO.

But I am surprised that anyone was able to find any homeless during Obamugabe’s reign, as they usually disappear during a DemocRat administration, only to reappear when a Republican in in the WH.


35 posted on 08/07/2015 3:54:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Boogieman
Well, if there aren’t any other accommodations available to them, then it effectively is. Man has a biological need to “loiter” somewhere about a third of each day. That’s not something we can just choose not to do.

Are there any places, do you think, where a person hasn't the right to loiter?

36 posted on 08/07/2015 3:57:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Of course.


37 posted on 08/07/2015 3:59:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: huckfillary

“At one time we had vagrancy laws.”

Yes, and at one time we had debtor’s prisons, or “work houses” where the homeless were put into forced servitude. Just because we had things in the past doesn’t mean they were just or proper.


38 posted on 08/07/2015 4:02:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C19fan

The price of most formerly collectible cars is way down so why not do a cash for clunker II and set clunkers out as economic recovery sleeping units. A win win, what’s not to like, recycle and cut carbon feetprints simultaneously...period.


39 posted on 08/07/2015 4:02:46 PM PDT by Recompennation
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To: GreyFriar

The last time they did that, it did not end well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army


40 posted on 08/07/2015 4:21:11 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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