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Boy Scout Backlash? Organization May See Rapid Decline in Church Support Following Gay Leaders Vote
Christian Post ^ | 08/02/2015 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 08/02/2015 6:10:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Boy Scouts of America may experience a severe backlash from church sponsors following its recent vote to approve openly gay scout leaders.

A national organization boasting over 2.6 million members, many of the BSA's more than 37,000 troops come from churches that officially state that homosexuality is a sin.

These include the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the United Methodist Church, and the Southern Baptist Convention.

Roger S. Oldham, spokesman for the SBC, told The Christian Post that Southern Baptist churches have been cutting ties with the BSA since 2013, when the youth organization voted to allow openly gay members but not leaders.

"Some already have following the 2013 vote. We anticipate that others will following this vote," said Oldham to CP.

"We predicted in 2013 that the Scouts would see an immediate loss in membership with continual attrition over time, something their 2014 and 2015 annual reports clearly demonstrate."

Oldham told CP that while the SBC does not have an official relationship with BSA, there are member churches within the Convention that sponsor troops.

Ernest Easley, professor of evangelism with the School of Theology and Missions at Union University, has called on churches still connected to the BSA to sever their ties.

"The Supreme Court's recent ruling on same-sex marriage played right into the hands of the Boy Scouts as they take ... yet another step away from their own pledge of being 'morally straight.' I suppose it's time to change the pledge," said Easley to the Baptist Press.

"I hope churches that still sponsor troops, that were reluctant to end their sponsorship earlier, will now decide to cut their ties with the Scouts and find other ways … to invest in the lives of young boys."

In July, the BSA executive committee voted to end its historic ban on openly gay adult leaders, a decision ratified soon after by the National Executive Board in a 45-12 vote.

While ending the gay scout leader ban, BSA also stated that church-sponsored troops can still set their own policies on adult leaders.

The Boy Scouts leadership said in a memo that it "rejects any interference with or condemnation of the diverse beliefs of chartering organizations on matters of marriage, family, and sexuality."

Nevertheless, denominations like the LDS church have openly considered reassessing and possibly ending its connection to the BSA.

In a statement released soon after the vote, the LDS Church said they were "deeply troubled" by the BSA's decision, adding that "the admission of openly gay leaders is inconsistent with the doctrines of the Church."

"As a global organization with members in 170 countries, the LDS Church has long been evaluating the limitations that fully one-half of its youth face where Scouting is not available," continued the statement.

"Those worldwide needs combined with this vote by the BSA National Executive Board will be carefully reviewed by the leaders of the Church in the weeks ahead."

The United Methodist Church, itself embroiled in a debate over its official position on homosexuality, is not openly considering a severance with the Scouts.

A UMC spokeswoman directed CP to a statement by Gilbert C. Hanke, general secretary of the General Commission on United Methodist Men.

"The Office of Civic Youth-Serving Agencies/Scouting, GCUMM, has enjoyed partnerships with four civic youth agencies for many years, including the Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of the USA, Camp Fire and Big Brothers Big Sisters of America," stated Hanke.

"The primary reason for these partnerships is our commitment to ministering to the children and youth of our church communities, including at-risk youth."

Hanke also said that further comments on the BSA policy change may come following the next meeting of the GCUMM Board on Aug. 20-22.


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KEYWORDS: backlash; boyscout; bsa; churches; gayshomosexuality; homosexualagenda; lds; umc
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To: SeekAndFind

The Boy Scouts will also suffer regional declines in membership with some conservative States carrying on the tradition of service and morality in the Scouts.


41 posted on 08/02/2015 7:48:53 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Gen.Blather

RE: I think its time for the marketplace to take over and offer alternatives to the Boy Scouts.

See Post #31 and #33 of this thread.


42 posted on 08/02/2015 7:50:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

UMC won’t do sh!t. They voted to give benefits to same sex partners!


43 posted on 08/02/2015 7:51:59 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: SeekAndFind

“RE: I think its time for the marketplace to take over and offer alternatives to the Boy Scouts.

See Post #31 and #33 of this thread.

Excellent. The problem with the Boy Scouts is that they have been around so long their mission has become polluted with political correctness. I suspect this is partially a funding issue with where the money comes from and partially an issue where people who aren’t really interested in Scouting have acquired “jobs” rather than a calling.


44 posted on 08/02/2015 7:54:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SeekAndFind

The same thing happened with Scouts Canada when they went homo back in 1998 when it was known up until then as the Boy Scouts of Canada.

Scouts Canada membership numbers.
http://www.scoutscan.com/issues/membershipstats.html

In 1965 membership peaked at 321,608. By 1990 they had 265,313 scouts. In 2013 that number had plummeted to 98,142.

According to this wiki membership dropped even further to 88,178 in 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouts_Canada

The Death of Canadian Scouting
by Hans Zeiger
MensNewsDaily.com
August 13, 2004
http://www.virtueonline.org/canada-death-canadian-scouting

A warning: Canadian scouts fled after open-door policy
http://onenewsnow.com/culture/2013/05/23/a-warning-canadian-scouts-fled-after-open-door-policy


45 posted on 08/02/2015 7:57:45 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boy Scouts’ ranks drop after year of policy change
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/12/boy-scouts-ranks-drop/5435033/
12FEB2014

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DALLAS (AP) — The Boy Scouts of America said Wednesday that it lost 6 percent of its membership after an often-bruising year in which it announced it would accept openly gay boys for the first time, over the objections of some participants who eventually left the organization.

Boy Scout membership falls again in 2014
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/17/us-usa-boyscouts-idUSKBN0KQ05O20150117
17JAN2015

(excerpt)
Membership in the Boy Scouts of America took a steeper tumble during 2014, the first year under a policy that allows openly gay youth to participate, than in recent years of a decade-long decline.

About 2.4 million youth participated in the nearly 105-year-old Texas-based scouting program, representing a 7.4 percent decline over 2013 enrollment of 2.6 million youth, Boy Scout officials said in a statement on Friday.

Enrollment declined by about 6 percent in 2013. BSA officials said that decreasing participation is a trend that most youth organizations are facing.

AS GIRL SCOUTS MEMBERSHIP PLUMMETS, THREATS OF SPLIT EMERGE
20OCT2014
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/10/20/girl-scout-membership-plummets-nearly-12-in-past-two-years-and-now-a-split/


46 posted on 08/02/2015 8:07:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Mercat

That’s easy. Don’t go.


47 posted on 08/02/2015 8:08:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: madprof98

I’d say a private wedding was in order.


48 posted on 08/02/2015 8:10:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rbg81
The destruction of the BSA was the plan all along.

Whose plan?

The destruction of the BSA is self-initiated. In fact, some people would tell you that hasn't been destroyed at all. By some measures it may even be a successful business enterprise that makes its leadership a lot of money and functions the same way as any other massive non-profit corporation that doesn't give a sh!t about fulfilling any kind of mission anymore.

49 posted on 08/02/2015 8:11:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no way I would let my kids go camping with a gay guy.......no brainer!!!


50 posted on 08/02/2015 8:36:04 AM PDT by ontap
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To: boycott

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Christian Churches will find themselves WONDERFULLY BLESSED BY GOD when they give-up their “prison chains” of IRS 501-C3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8TlzFiMSwY

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51 posted on 08/02/2015 8:50:13 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

That is what will be needed to free the churches to do what they do best, preach the need for repentence and conversion if they get out of the chains of 501-C3.


52 posted on 08/02/2015 8:54:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Royal Rangers might be a good alternative too.


53 posted on 08/02/2015 9:04:19 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14
Royal Rangers is an activity-based, small-group church ministry for boys in grades K-12 providing “Christlike character formation and servant leadership development for boys and young men in a highly relational and fun environment.”

The Royal Rangers program is active throughout the United States as well as over 90 nations of the world. Although Royal Rangers in the USA is a boys-only program, some nations operate Royal Rangers as a co-ed program allowing both boys and girls to participate.


54 posted on 08/02/2015 9:14:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Gen.Blather
But...but...or is that butt the BSA IS offering "alternatives". LIFESTYLE alternatives.
To recognize the BSA's move to allow “gays” to occupy the position (and we're NOT talking here about an organizational “position” but a physical one) of Scoutmaster, they will be adding an entire range of new merit programs. Here is the first of the new opportunities for our kids to experience the “gay” lifestyle while earning points toward the soon to be announced new highest scout rank. Evil Scout will replace Eagle Scout.

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The only thing sadder than this development is that this sort of crap no longer makes enough folks angry! “Whom God would destroy, he first makes mad.”

America has LOST ITS BLEEPING MIND!!!!


55 posted on 08/02/2015 9:19:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: bjorn14
Here's another Scout-like organization that has been in existence even before the BSA went Politically Correct...

Christian Service Brigade (CSB) (aka CSB Ministries) is a non-denominational Christian organization for men and boys in the United States and Canada. Often referred to as "Brigade," it is organized according to a model historically similar to that of international Boys Brigade and Scouting organizations.

More than a scout alternative, Brigade programs put a particular emphasis on the relationship between fathers and sons, and equip men in the local church to mentor and disciple boys and young men through an action-driven process, with a spiritual application associated with all activities.

Brigade units are sponsored by local churches, and these are typically Protestant and Evangelical in character. The Christian Service Brigade motto is "Bright and Keen for Christ."


56 posted on 08/02/2015 9:20:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I am also an ex-Scoutmaster. Left in Dec 2013 when the initial vote to allow homosexual youth was made. My 2 sons, both months away from Eagle also quit. When my older son announced to the trip his resignation he said ‘The only way to obey the Scout Oath and Law, was to quit scouting’ . They have both joined TL and close to being award their highest award.

Folks need to know that TL is founded by Scouters who quit with the 2013 decision. It has Scout executives in the upper leadership positions. The head legal council for BSA is now in TL, he is the one who argued the Supreme Court case. The lead Scout historian is now writing the TL handbook. He has taken the path of modeling it after the pre-1970 BSA handbook.


57 posted on 08/02/2015 11:00:44 AM PDT by lost in the snow (One PO'ed Scout Master and Proud of the HIGH moral ground)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is an alternative Trail Life organization that does all the stuff the Boy-scouts uses to do. Except they are not afraid of doing scouting as its been done for a 100 years.

http://www.traillifeusa.com/


58 posted on 08/02/2015 12:20:23 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: ontap

I think we need to push all Christian Boy Scout troops to transfer to Trail Life Groups.


59 posted on 08/02/2015 12:24:23 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to consolidate the names and organizational alternatives. We have to build a new brand to replace the BSA.

Somehow I don’t see the “royal Rangers” taking off in the USA.


60 posted on 08/02/2015 12:27:18 PM PDT by Monorprise
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