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Cincinnati campus officer charged with murder wants job back
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Posted on 07/31/2015 11:16:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Officer Ray Tensing was fired shortly after his indictment Wednesday on charges of murder and voluntary manslaughter in the death of 43-year-old Samuel DuBose. Tensing pleaded not guilty to the charges and was released on bail Thursday.

An official with the FOP Ohio Labor Council of the state Fraternal Order of Police said Friday that the union has filed a grievance against UC. The union says the university violated Tensing's employment contract by not giving him a predisciplinary conference and a copy of the formal charges.

A UC spokeswoman said in an email Friday that the university stands by its decision.

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1 posted on 07/31/2015 11:16:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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An official with the FOP Ohio Labor Council of the state Fraternal Order of Police said Friday that the union has filed a grievance against UC. The union says the university violated Tensing's employment contract by not giving him a predisciplinary conference and a copy of the formal charges.

I think the judge gave him a copy of the formal charges, didn't she?

2 posted on 07/31/2015 11:18:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BenLurkin

Another “he said, she said.” But I think they should put him on leave, not fire him, until the case is heard, or at least the university regulations are satisfied. It certainly sounds to me as if, at the least, he overdid it by shooting the guy. But let’s follow the rules.


3 posted on 07/31/2015 11:20:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Why is a campus cop enforcing front plate law? Was he on uni property?


4 posted on 07/31/2015 11:21:13 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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The driver was not on campus but the local officials have an agreement with the University officers for area enforcement coverage.


5 posted on 07/31/2015 11:23:41 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Paladin2

He was in a area where UC students live off-campus.

Apparently legitimate. (I know that if I had a kid there — I’d want the campus Police patrolling.)

As for the tag issue — it does seem trivial. But the guy he pulled over turned out to be a very sketchy character.


6 posted on 07/31/2015 11:24:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Why is a campus cop enforcing front plate law? Was he on uni property?

There is an agreement with the city that the University police could handle minor infractions in the area surrounding the campus. But I would assume they meant stuff like speeding or illegal turns or minor fender-benders. Why he thought a missing front plate was worth pulling over is beyond me. Right now I'm betting he wishes he'd let it go.

7 posted on 07/31/2015 11:25:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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The university has to follow precise procedures with the unionized employees (and the other civil service ones as well I suspect)


8 posted on 07/31/2015 11:26:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Do the uni cops get revenue sharing from the courts for off campus collars?


9 posted on 07/31/2015 11:27:12 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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According to what I have read, he was NOT on Uni property but was on co-jurisdiction property which is shared enforcement by agreement between the university and the city.

I have no way to confirm or refute that claim. Just passing on what I have read.


10 posted on 07/31/2015 11:27:42 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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The cop was pretty sketchy. He’d washed out of the State Troopers, and like a lot of campus cops, he was kind of a buff. I guess it’s probably a good idea to have campus cops, but I actually think the colleges would be better off having a contract with the local police force, if that possible.


11 posted on 07/31/2015 11:27:59 AM PDT by livius
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This cops’ name has been dragged through the mud by this incident. I don’t think there will be any going back on duty at this same University as though nothing happened. He should be grateful no riots have yet broken out. Travel somewhere else in the region and try getting a similar job there, probably for less pay.


12 posted on 07/31/2015 11:30:19 AM PDT by lee martell (The sag)
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To: Paladin2

In addition to what doodledog said, most state university police, no matter the state, have gone to the state academy and have the same powers as state police.

Outside the issue of whether the officer murdered Dubose; as far as a minor front plate issue; the officer saw something else. When stopped, Dubose was evasive, had open alcohol under the seat, no license, driving on suspension and had done this and other minor crimes over 75 times. Now, if it had been known that an officer let someone slip by with a minor infraction like no front plate and Dubose drunkenly ran over a child on a tricycle or some other thing we’d be screaming they should have done something to get him off the road. Outside killing the driver, it was a good stop.


13 posted on 07/31/2015 11:30:55 AM PDT by rey
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To: taxcontrol

I believe that our local uni cops have similar “privileges” and are sworn under some State authority. Still seems questionable and redundent to me.


14 posted on 07/31/2015 11:31:16 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: livius

Our local uni didn’t think they were getting their moneys worth, so set up their own some 20? years ago.


15 posted on 07/31/2015 11:33:25 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: BenLurkin

My University PD had an arrangement with local PD to patrol areas near off campus University owned/leased spaces.


16 posted on 07/31/2015 11:35:37 AM PDT by matt04
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Wouldn’t the body cam data and lp # be enough to just have the city police just go to his house and wait for him to arrive for his sobriety test. Or just get city backup on scene?


17 posted on 07/31/2015 11:38:23 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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“The driver was not on campus but the local officials have an agreement with the University officers for area enforcement coverage.”

That means the city is on the hook for the wrongful death settlement, too.

L


18 posted on 07/31/2015 11:38:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: rey

I understand your point — and it’s a good one.

Something about “Outside killing the driver, it was a good stop” did make me laugh out loud, though.


19 posted on 07/31/2015 11:39:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Here in Colorado, any POST certified officer can enforce any state law in any jurisdiction. http://tornado.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_dir/olls/sl2002a/sl_227.htm


20 posted on 07/31/2015 11:42:16 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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