Posted on 07/30/2015 8:11:49 AM PDT by usconservative
While you may face legal consequences for illegally recording someone, the USSC has already established (see the Pentagon Papers) that the method by which you have obtained information does not bear on your ability to publish it. In fact, the CMP could be found guilty of illegally taping even if they never published a single video (depending on the laws where they taped). So how the videos were obtained is irrelevant to a prior-restraint order.
Which should we be more concerned about: A legal question, or the horrifying act being perpetuated and monitized by PP?
Release ALL the video's NOW. Screw the judge.
The videos are staying up on youtube, here’s their channel;
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSI8qkDPz1CZj1u9I8Wbcg
I think that their internal IT systems need to hacked and some party outside of the US puts them on YouTube. Plausible Deniability.
Well, “selective enforcement” of the law works both ways, doesn’t it?
You know, a few years ago, the Russians made a prediction that the US would probably break up. I didn’t think this was outrageous then, and I don’t think so now. Our own CIA predicted that Yugoslavia would break up after the fall of the USSR, and everyone said that they were crazy.
Under a situation like that, they should immediately notify the judge that the video was transferred out of state, to persons or people unknown, that they have no control over, though they believe their intent is to put the video on the Internet.
So, if the judge wants to stop the video, he will have to order all the Internet Service Providers operating in the state to block it from being downloaded by Californians.
You’re a genius. Seriously.
Judgment nullification.
Someone may indeed face a legal penalty for their actions in shooting the vids.....but AFAIK, any individual (or group) can publish whatever they like, as long as the content is true. The only place where "use" of illegally obtained information is forbidden is as evidence in a trial.
No matter how much you want it to be, it’s not a free speech issue. We can’t say we don’t want illegal immigrants and then turn around and say we need to break the law here or there because it advances our cause. The “do as I say, not as I do” theory doesn’t fly to well.
I am all for the release of these tapes. I repeat, I am all for these tapes to see the light of day and the world to see them. It must be done legally.
However, if they were obtained illegally the judge will have them destroyed or buried during the appeal process. That you can take to the bank.
And no, the statement you said that any individual (or group) can publish anything they like as long as it is true is again wrong. For example, you cannot publish anything to incite another to commit a crime even if the published material is truth. This is illegal.
As far as evidence only in a court, if the tapes are released to the public before being evidenced for court, then it becomes available in the open space. Once an item is put on display it usually can never be recalled fully. Just because the judge ordered to take them down, doesn’t mean another individual did not record and put them up on their website. Should audio/video not get put up before the injunction, then the determination can be made whether those were made legally. Every victim has a set of rights and are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (not in the public court). While I despise this corporation and what they do, we are a nation of laws and we must act accordingly even if the other side doesn’t. Be damned with the laws and you are no better than the anarchist to which you fight against. Laws can be bent but never should be broken. If a law is wrong, then change it.
The reason this must be done legally is because the world is watching us to be morally superior and law abiding. If we can’t then to hell with them all because they will point t that like they are doing now. To be what we say we are, we must display those behaviors that we claim.
Rights are rights until they infringe upon another even if they are doing wrong in the eyes of the law. Do this right and no matter what gets said the left will not be ale to defend these actions.
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