[Robert Teesdale]

Controls the agenda, controls the members.

Fallacies of division and composition are ad infinitum in your arguments... candidly, I'm surprised you haven't bottomed out with Godwin's Law yet. I'll give you credit for that.

As soon as the Tx CofC&I website gets back up.

Been up all day, bud. But pasting a website isn't the same thing as saying "I have attended a meeting in private where club business was discussed and I am in material possession of documents from that meeting which prove violation of the organization's stated purpose."

I think you're throwing trash, and doing so disingenuously.

Certainly, what is known as the dominant club in an area will not unusually have a more respected voice at the table. It's common, but not an imperative, practice for the head of any COC organization to be from that dominant club. What you are making out to be a sinister meme is nothing more than the reality of the other, less well known Golden Rule: he who has the gold, makes the rules. Of course the dominant club has greater influence. That is why it is the domninant club. Or, conversely, it has greater influence because it is the dominant club.

Parsing and twisting can be fun in fencing and linguistics, but it's occasionally a little exasperating. Exasperation being your perceived goal (my perception), I conclude you're trolling for flames. But that's okay.

I am, personally, actually interested in what lies behind your feelings. Care to share? I'll trade you honesty for honesty, if you like.

[TexasGator]

“I am, personally, actually interested in what lies behind your feelings. Care to share? I’ll trade you honesty for honesty, if you like. “

Motorcycle gangs are no good.

[TexasGator]

“Certainly, what is known as the dominant club in an area will not unusually have a more respected voice at the table. It’s common, but not an imperative, practice for the head of any COC organization to be from that dominant club.”

If 99% of the riders are NOT outlaws, how can a fraction of 1% become the ‘dominant club’ and dictate to the other 99+% what to wear and where to ride?

[TexasGator]

“”I have attended a meeting in private where club business was discussed”

I thought it was an ‘open’ meeting organization ...