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The Chinese stock implosion is starting to get serious. It's costing U.S. investors real money.Shanghai Composite

The 144 China-based stocks with primary listings on major U.S. exchanges have erased nearly $40 billion in paper wealth since the Shanghai Composite index peaked on June 12. It's an enormous destruction of wealth that in effects wipes out the market value of a company the size of cruise ship operator Carnival.

The Shanghai composite index' losses are only getting worse. The much-watched measure of Chinese stocks fell 8.5% in overnight trading Monday. The index has dropped more than 27% since hitting its peak this year back on June 12.

Shanghai Composite (Photo: Bloomberg)

Some of the stock-specific shredding of value is getting noteworthy. Chinese e-commerce stock, Alibaba, has been

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CHINESE STOCKS WITH PRIMARY LISTING ON U.S. EXCHANGES DOWN MOST IN MARKET VALUE SINCE 6/12/2015
Company Symbol $ ch. market value ($ billions) % Ch. market value since 6/12/2015
Alibaba Group BABA -$7.6 -6.1%
JD.com JD -$4.5 -15.3%
Vipshop VIPS -$2.9 -21.5%
Youku YOKO -$1.8 -35.3%
58.com WUBA -$1.4 -18.8%
Sources: S&P Capital IQ, USA TODAY research

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1 posted on 07/28/2015 4:06:14 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Remember in 2008 when it was all over for America, and the world now belonged to the BRICs?


2 posted on 07/28/2015 4:08:53 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: expat_panama

Some of us have been saying for years that China’s future wasn’t nearly as strong as many Americans have been making it out to be. It will be interesting to see how far they plunge before it’s all said and done.


3 posted on 07/28/2015 4:09:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: expat_panama

I think what China is doing is driving down the price of Gold since they are, I believe, due to receive this years payment on our debt to them, in the billions, in gold.


4 posted on 07/28/2015 4:11:06 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: 1010RD; A Cyrenian; abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; aposiopetic; Aquamarine; ..

A lovely Tuesday morning to all waking up from the fifth straight drop in stocks and a week of new bases for gold'n'silver ($1,096 and $14.68).   They all look good now --at least to futures traders who see stock indexes up +0.55% and metals also upbeat to +0.10%  Reports coming up today are Case-Shiller 20-city Index and Consumer Confidence.  Then again:

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5 posted on 07/28/2015 4:19:24 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

We live in the Age of Distrust. Once lost trust is hard to restore. Which politicians do you trust to run the country?


6 posted on 07/28/2015 4:19:45 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: expat_panama

And who’s to say that The Donald’s pointing out China’s crookedness with their currency, and his pledge to jerk the slack out of their one-sided trade lashup didn’t influence the start of the divestiture of ching chang stocks?

And once it started, the herd mentality did the rest.


8 posted on 07/28/2015 4:25:33 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: expat_panama

In the long run, communism is not compatible with capitalism. You may get by if you’re in the rapid development phase, but after that, it’s really tough. No big command and control economy has ever made the jump.


9 posted on 07/28/2015 4:25:42 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: expat_panama

China sits on the granddaddy of all real estate bubbles. Its real estate is artificially valued and many loans and mortages are made against these psudo assets. Also Chinese Central bankers, still controlled by the Party, directed the squandering of $3 trillion of lost capital building huge ghost cities that sit empty, decaying, and have no return on investment. The days when productive, intelligent Chinese will work for $40/month plus room and board are over. Chinese factories and the markets they serve are shrinking. One reason that China supports Iran and the lifting of sanctions is because it views Iran not only as an energy source but Iran’s 75 million citizens as a big market for its export driven economy.


10 posted on 07/28/2015 4:27:38 AM PDT by allendale
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To: expat_panama

Just imagine what our country woulld be like if we had a conservative patriot in the White House. Our economy would be booming.


12 posted on 07/28/2015 4:34:00 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: expat_panama

The Hang Seng index will end up at about 2500 and the Dow will end up at about 10500-11000 within about 2 years.


21 posted on 07/28/2015 4:59:50 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: expat_panama

Let’s see:

* no real accounting standards
* communism with all it’s bells and whistles
* government buying stock
* ghost cities
* toxins in manufactured goods shipped around the world

What could go wrong?


22 posted on 07/28/2015 5:03:18 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Ted is the ticket.)
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To: expat_panama

Chart looks like a classic “head and shoulders” formation.


24 posted on 07/28/2015 5:05:55 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: expat_panama

Growth Miracle Is Over

I think the ‘growth miracle’ was over some time ago but the leaders of a command economy were able to cover it... Fake cities, fudged books, etc.


36 posted on 07/28/2015 8:44:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (They are not undocumented and they are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens. Lurkinnamloomin)
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To: expat_panama

I ain’t got no money, so I ain’t losing any money in China.


38 posted on 07/28/2015 11:01:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe aKeystone Pipe lik Project : build it already Congreorgyss)
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